To faced golfers

[Deleted member 1147]

That is how it should be dealt with from both sides!! well done on making the extra effort to walk over and apologise, and fair play to the captain for realising you did not intentionally do it and having a common sense approach. thumbs up all round!

Agreed, I've occasionally hit close to those in front, especially on courses I've never played before. The best thing you can do is apologise and then give a bit more room on future shots.
You can end up waiting too long, and annoy those behind you, but it's better safe than sorry.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I would have told the secretary you were putting the safety of fellow members first as you should. However it is done with now hopefully but if not put your side in writing and explain your actions. I do think it's rather cowardly to say thank you to your face and then report you. Are you sure it was them?

As for the poster hitting balls over the head of the groups in front twice, I'm sorry but there would be big trouble if you did that at my place. No idea what you are trying to prove and what happened if you got it wrong and it someone. No-one else but you responsible and as we've seen it can be mighty expensive if you injure someone

 

[Allanxyz]

Here here. Also playing through should only be permitted IMO if there is nothing ahead of you and the group behind are playing quicker than yourself. Letting the group behind through would benefit no one if they are only going to get stuck behind the group infront of you and your son.

This is tricky, plenty of times I've been playing on my own stuck behind a couple of four balls... the group in front says "sorry there's no point letting you through, there is a group in front"

This always gets my goat as I'll clearly be quicker and it's likely the group in front might let me play through as well... it's difficult though, does everyone have to have a longer round just so one group with a buggy can cut their way through all the groups in front... when I think about this example, maybe I should chill out a bit and just wait.

 

[Spark.]

Why cant you then tee up with the group infront and walk up to second ball with them and leave them behind, then do the say with the group ahead. Id be bold and just ask if i can tee up with them.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

I was playing in a 4 ball recently, keeping up with the group in front when out of nowhere the guy who works behind the bar comes speeding along in his buggy. The 2 ball (2 groups back) had phoned the club house and complained that we were playing slowly and that we should let people play through. We explained that we were keeping up with the group in front but agreed to let the 2 ball directly behind us play through.

As we waited on the next tee for them they asked why we had stopped and we explained we'd been asked to let them play through.....they said it wasn't them that had called the club house and thought the speed of play was ok.

We played out the remaining 8 holes without the 2 ball who'd complained actually catching us up...... it's time like this where I wish I was the confrontational type as I'd had loved to give them a piece of my mind.

I guess in life you've always got those people who are just naturally arrogant idiots. I hope they had an awful round.

 

[Foxholer]

Re: Two faced golfers

I believe this entire situation could have been avoided with proper Marshaling - even via an ad-hoc phone call to the Pro Shop/Secretay where such situations, =like this ones, arise.

If a 'Marshal' comes out and assesses the overall course situation, they then make a decision as to whether it's worthwhile for anybody to be played through. He/She might also suggest that 2-balls consider joining up. The biggest advantage of the 'independent' Marshal is that there is no animosity - except maybe to the Marshal, who should have a thick enough skin to be aware of that.

As it is, you now dislike the guys in the Buggy, aren't too keen on the guys in front - who aren't happy with you for pushing them - and there's conflict between you guys and the Secretary. That a no-win, everyone loses situation.

FWIW. I believe it all depends on what is happening several holes ahead. If there is a sufficient gap, then faster playing groups should be called through to fill that gap. If, however, the course is simply full, then there is little pointing being called through. That's going to achieve little but will cause considerable disruption. And while 2, or maybe 4 in this case folk might get a slightly quicker round, 4 or maybe 8 folk get a slower one - so that's not a inner either! That's why joining up should be encouraged.

The guys in the buggy may (but only may) have had a point. I'm unconvinced that Buggies are actually quicker, but they may have been, so if you had got a free run and they were still quicker, then letting them through would be sensible. You may have done them something of a dis-service by not 'pushing' through the group in front. But, not having been there, that would be pure speculation. I actually prefer having no-one tight behind me but aren't too fussed about behind others if it's reasonable, so would have let the buggy through.

 

[Foxholer]

Re: Two faced golfers

I believe this entire situation could have been avoided with proper Marshaling - even via an ad-hoc phone call to the Pro Shop/Secretay where such situations, =like this ones, arise.

If a 'Marshal' comes out and assesses the overall course situation, they then make a decision as to whether it's worthwhile for anybody to be played through. He/She might also suggest that 2-balls consider joining up. The biggest advantage of the 'independent' Marshal is that there is no animosity - except maybe to the Marshal, who should have a thick enough skin to be aware of that.

As it is, you now dislike the guys in the Buggy, aren't too keen on the guys in front - who aren't happy with you for pushing them - and there's conflict between you guys and the Secretary. That a no-win, everyone loses situation.

FWIW. I believe it all depends on what is happening several holes ahead. If there is a sufficient gap, then faster playing groups should be called through to fill that gap. If, however, the course is simply full, then there is little pointing being called through. That's going to achieve little but will cause considerable disruption. And while 2, or maybe 4 in this case folk might get a slightly quicker round, 4 or maybe 8 folk get a slower one - so that's not a inner either! That's why joining up should be encouraged.

The guys in the buggy may (but only may) have had a point. I'm unconvinced that Buggies are actually quicker, but they may have been, so if you had got a free run and they were still quicker, then letting them through would be sensible. You may have done them something of a dis-service by not 'pushing' through the group in front. But, not having been there, that would be pure speculation. I actually prefer having no-one tight behind me but aren't too fussed about behind others if it's reasonable, so would have let the buggy through.

As for hitting into/over another group. That's unacceptably dangerous - and something that would warrant eviction from the course imo.

 

[markgs]

You hitting over the heads of the group in front was not the fault of the idiot you were playing with. Totally your responsibility.

Would you have jumped off a cliff if someone suggested it?

Probably yes ill try anything once chum

 

[londonlewis]

Me and my son played a round today at our local course (both member's) when we arrived we were told to start on the 3rd as there were a few 4 balls who had just set off. So we did. Hit out tee shots on a 100yrd par 3, walked to the green and seen a 2 ball in a buggy just arriving at the tee. We putted out and moved to the 4th, another par3. There were 2 groups in front so we had to wait for the green to clear. As the course is short and most greens can be driven ,we had to wait for them to clear before teeing off. Once we hit the 14th the course gets longer, so we waited and let the buggies through. We apologized and explained we had to wait for greens to clear, they said it's fine and thanked us for letting them through.

My son and I played holes 1&2 then got a drink from the pro shop and played 14-18 only to walk off the course to the club Secretary, standing arms folded as there had been a complaint about slow play.

Those guys had been polite to us and the moaned when we were not there. Why do people do this. Sorry for the long rant but very annoyed. We even explained we had been told to start on 3 but he would not listen. These old fellas were not members but do use the course on a regular basis.

Were we wrong to not let them through? I had even hit a ball into the group in front, by mistake on a tee shot so they parked the buggy where we could see it all the time. We played the gimmie from 2/3ft so didn't putt out all the time.

I'm just annoyed we took the blame. Course was gedney hill, short but risk and reward course.

You've definitely done nothing wrong.

If someone had a go at me in this type of instance I am sure I would throw certain things back in their face.
Things like; what do you expect if you only space tee times out by 8 minutes?
Or; why don't you turn the par-3 8th into a call up hole to do something about slow play?
Or; can you tell me at what point during my round was there a gap between us and the group in front?

I played in Spain once where the four ball behind us would tee off with us in range.
A local Spaniard tried to explain to me that the slow play rule meant they were allowed to do this. He looked a little shocked when I replied in Spanish that I would punch his lights out if he did it again - how was he supposed to know I had lived in Spain for 2 years!

 

[Allanxyz]

Why cant you then tee up with the group infront and walk up to second ball with them and leave them behind, then do the say with the group ahead. Id be bold and just ask if i can tee up with them.

Not a bad idea... I'm a bit of a wuss though and live in Germany so I might not be able to get my point across... I'll try it next time and see what happens. Maybe we'll be booted out of the EU...

 

[North Mimms]

Is this serious?

You hit over the heads of a 4 ball? TWICE???

You shouldn't really step foot on a golf course if your willing to do things like that

There's never a white van driver around when you need them to take someone's clubs out of action!