TM sldr

[DAVEYBOY]

Well with its BIG official announcement today I wondered what you lot thought about the new driver as TM seem to be receiving a bashing over it on there social network pages from the public.

Its meant to be there longest yet and help a 28 handicapper turn his massive slice into a tour pro's draw.

The white head has now gone so that must mean they have gone back to the glare of a darker head. Personally I can't stand TM anymore and I can't wait to swap the remainder of my bag to an alternative brand. I do like the Burner 2.0 irons appearance wise but the stuff they are coming out with lately is just cheap and tacky and after recently purchasing my Ping G25 hybrid I can feel the difference in quality, Especially with the shaft and stock grip.

I can't wait to order mine

 

[In_The_Rough]

Nothing against TM really. Love my 3 wood but their marketing and some of the latest models have been really cheap looking

 

[Fader]

My brother is a massive TM fanboy and one of his mates is a fitter for them at Wentworth so I have no doubts this will be in his bag shortly.

Personally not a fan of TM Woods, Irons or Wedges but I do really like the putters. But a putter is a club I plan to rarely change so that's good.

New gear doesn't mean people have to buy it, but they will buy it because they like to have the latest models

 

[DAVEYBOY]

My brother is a massive TM fanboy and one of his mates is a fitter for them at Wentworth so I have no doubts this will be in his bag shortly.

Personally not a fan of TM Woods, Irons or Wedges but I do really like the putters. But a putter is a club I plan to rarely change so that's good.

New gear doesn't mean people have to buy it, but they will buy it because they like to have the latest models

I forgot my putter was TM, yes the putter isn't to bad but I would swap it for this...

 

[User20205]

It's probably a decent club, amongst a load of other decent clubs from other manufacturers.

It does seem like a backward step pushing moveable weights, back the r7 almost. And what happened to white??

I watched a launch video on twitter where tm's European vp stated with a straight face that that this was their longest, most forgiving driver ever!!!!

He also stated that tm are in the business of producing clubs that play good and look good also....he lost me there

 

[Mungoscorner]

6 year old technology from what i can see.
http://golf.mizunoeurope.com/news/i..._09_12_MIZUNO_S_MP_600_DRIVER_WITH_FAST_TRACK

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Massive fan of TM woods but think this looks cheap and tacky. Have been hitting my R11 long and straight over the weekend so won't be looking to swap it for an SLDR anytime soon.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

I feel that TM prey on the vulnerable, players who want to hit long straight drives like the pros believe they will with the distance claims TM make and now with a click of a wrench you can go from a fade to a draw. On the other side there are company's like Ping and Titleist who bring out clubs and say here you go another quality club but it doesn't glow in the dark.

I learnt a long time ago its not the club its the monkey on the end.

 

[Fader]

I feel that TM prey on the vulnerable, players who want to hit long straight drives like the pros believe they will with the distance claims TM make and now with a click of a wrench you can go from a fade to a draw. On the other side there are company's like Ping and Titleist who bring out clubs and say here you go another quality club but it doesn't glow in the dark.

I learnt a long time ago its not the club its the monkey on the end.

Don't tend to agree with that really, think of it in terms of car manufacturers. They bring out brand new cars of the same model every
year with the odd slight tweak here and there are they praying on the vulnerable to in order to get them to buy a new spec the following year! No all they are trying to do is continually face lift a product to steal customers away from their competitors.

People don't have to buy them most won't need a new driver and those that want the latest tech with the funds will buy them and if over the duration of this clubs lifespan they get a few players to change from Ping, Cobra, Nike et al then the club and its marketing has worked in time for a new spec.

 

[Sweep]

I have no problem with TM in particular, but their marketing is now on the edge of ridiculous, almost to the point of insult. How do all the golfers who fell for the white head nonsense feel now?

 

[G1BB0]

I feel that TM prey on the vulnerable, players who want to hit long straight drives like the pros

have you seen the pro's, they rarely hit straight shots in fact some of their driving (apart from the length) would see them oob on a lot of holes at my gaff

I will stick with my R1 tyvm, in fact I reckon my old G10 is better than that sldr thingy

 

[garyinderry]

have you seen the pro's, they rarely hit straight shots in fact some of their driving (apart from the length) would see them oob on a lot of holes at my gaff

gotta agree with you there gibbo. I find longer wider courses so much easier to score at than a tight wee course with plenty of trouble.

 

[Hacker Khan]

As I've said before, I expect TM isn't specifically targeting the average golf club member in the UK but has also got an eye on the young players in emerging golf markets.

I saw a lot of haters on social media yesterday having a go at TM. I think part of this is that golf and most golfers, especially in the UK, are on the whole very traditional and are not that into marketing, have you seen the state of golf club web sites. And TM are all about marketing and seem to be trying to be relatively innovative with new ideas.

To some extent if you buy a TM club expecting it to be the alleged longest, straightest club on the market for more then 6 months then more fool you. And if you fall for all the 'buy this now as it is now black' then you kind of get what you deserve. I think a slight problem for TM may be the perceived resale value, as customers may get a bit wary knowing that the value of their club will go down very soon as a new model is introduced. But how many people buy clubs with resale value in mind? I don't know. And trade in values of clubs seem pretty low across the board nowadays as all manufacturers change pretty rapidly.

But then again I have a stage 2 hybrid and it goes a long way, and other people on here have spoken very highly about stage 2 woods. Plus their putters are excellent in my opinion. And as they are constantly replacing clubs then the cost of the 'old' (and I use that word lightly as they may only be 9 months old) models comes down and you can get some decent bargains.

Just take it all with a pinch of salt, if you are in the market for a new wood then hit it and see how it compares. And if it's the best then wait 6 months at most, then pick it up for half the price when a new model replaces it.

 

[pokerjoke]

This is supposed to be their longest ever.
What even longer than their 17 yards longer clubs.
That means a minimum of 18 yards in a year,when is it going to stop?.
Soon all our 300 yard forummers will be short hitters.

 

[One Planer]

gotta agree with you there gibbo. I find longer wider courses so much easier to score at than a tight wee course with plenty of trouble.

This is my gaff.

I only get to hit driver on about 4-6 holes. The rest is far too tight.

As for the SLDR, It's a Mizzy 630 fast track driver with a fresh coat of paint... Nothing new here.






Does this one go 17 yards further too?

 

[patricks148]

I'm in the market for a new driver and i quite like the look of this... maybe its because i have a Mizzy 600 and 630 fast track drivers

TM always made decent drivers and i only switched from my TM r7 425 due to it breaking, which is about to happen to my current driver!!!, its started to make a funny noise.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

My views on TMs recent products and the marketing that surrounds them is well known so I won't bore you with that now, however, playing devils advocate for a moment. They are trying to make money in a very competitive market and they know that an awful lot of people will buy a new driver every year based on the promises they hear rather than the performance they may get and they know that probably 80% of golfers are playing with kit they haven't been fitted for. Their marketing is therefore aimed at getting the attention of these people amongst all the other manufacturers and they do a very good job at doing that.

The fact that I think they are taking us all for fools is a completely different argument, but some fools are falling for it so it's job done for them.

I can't believe I just defended TM

 

[Hunka Turf]

The marketing is nonsense and the SLDR doesn't appeal to me looks wise but I don't think you can question the quality of the clubs. Loads of pros use their drivers/fairways including, most importantly, players who aren't sponsored by TM. Luke Donald for instance.

 

[jimbob.someroo]

My two pennies worth;

I think they annoyed a lot of people treating this as a brand new idea after the Mizuno 600/630 drivers had essentially the same thing 5 years ago.

I also think the slogan about 'innovation doesn't wait' thing will have got people's backs up as it sets a precedent for them bringing out a new driver as soon as they make up their next prototype.

All in all, it's probably a good driver. It may or may not be better than the R1/RBZ II but I think that even the most loyal TM customers are going to start to get a bit wound up when their £300 driver has depreciated to £100 in two months cos there's a new model coming out.

Like I say, probably a really good club, or the pro's wouldn't have put it in the bag as quickly as some of them did, but sends the wrong message IMHO and if anything creates less brand loyalty.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Great twitter from the place I got fitted at recently to TM Europe asking "whats the offcial line we give to the guy splashing out £250 on his driver last week?" Sums it up. I admire any company that is innovative, albeit revisiting the technology Mizuno had on their driver a few years ago but the cynical marketing of new product on such short time lines is a smack in the face to golf buyers. Yes I know the argument is there that you don't have to buy it and I accept that but with the R1, second phase RBZ both coming out this year with adjustability,does it really need another top end driver to supercede it at this stage.