The Words of Wisdom of Boris Johnson - Foreign Secretary

[Tashyboy]

Because if you are giving £5 to the fund for the investigations then that’s £5 less available from the £100 you could give to the police fund..

Either way it’s tax payers money being imo wasted ..

Children of yesterday have been sexually abused by politicians, sportsmen, celebrities, religious people etc. Children of yesterday were walking a minefield. To say taxpayers money is being wasted no matter which budget it comes out of quite frankly is bollox 👍

 

[SocketRocket]

There have also been some terrible accusations against people like Ted Heath and Leon Britton based on unstested evidence given by walter mitty accusers backed up by Polticians and Social Workers that have been now dismissed by the Police as having no substance.
Pity the same energy wasn't put into the grooming and sexual exploitation of young girls by gangs with Pakistani Origins because of the concern the Police had of being labled racists.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

There have also been some terrible accusations against people like Ted Heath and Leon Britton based on unstested evidence given by walter mitty accusers backed up by Polticians and Social Workers that have been now dismissed by the Police as having no substance.
Pity the same energy wasn't put into the grooming and sexual exploitation of young girls by gangs with Pakistani Origins because of the concern the Police had of being labled racists.

Here we go, typical red top nonsense.
Embarrassing comment from a grown man.

 

[SocketRocket]

Here we go, typical red top nonsense.
Embarrassing comment from a grown man.

I know what Im talking about, I dont need red top nonsense. Rather than silly insults try showing where I am wrong, try looking into the accuser who has been exposed as a liar, look into the politician who had to stand down from his accusations when they were proven to be false, look into to the social worker who after accusing these people of being part of a peodofile ring based on the evidence of someone the police have now agreed was giving false evidence. Show some proof of where my comments are wrong if you can but I know you cannot. Put up or shutup.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I know what Im talking about, I dont need red top nonsense. Rather than silly insults try showing where I am wrong, try looking into the accuser who has been exposed as a liar, look into the politician who had to stand down from his accusations when they were proven to be false, look into to the social worker who after accusing these people of being part of a peodofile ring based on the evidence of someone the police have now agreed was giving false evidence. Show some proof of where my comments are wrong if you can but I know you cannot. Put up or shutup.

Prove your comment about the Police being scared and not putting the same energy into investigating the grooming gangs.

What were the Police meant to do when these accusations were made against Heath and Britton? Dismiss them instantly or carry out an investigation? Very easy to have a dig and play the racist card after the facts and when the 2 things are unrelated.

 

[SocketRocket]

Prove your comment about the Police being scared and not putting the same energy into investigating the grooming gangs.

What were the Police meant to do when these accusations were made against Heath and Britton? Dismiss them instantly or carry out an investigation? Very easy to have a dig and play the racist card after the facts and when the 2 things are unrelated.

Regarding the police and Pakistani grooming gangs then you must be wearing the kings suit of clothes if you missed that link.
I asked you to show where my comments regarding Ted Heath and Leon Britton were incorrect, I take it from your diversion you cannot and look to your apology for making unsubstantiated defamatory comments.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Regarding the police and Pakistani grooming gangs then you must be wearing the kings suit of clothes if you missed that link.
I asked you to show where my comments regarding Ted Heath and Leon Britton were incorrect, I take it from your diversion you cannot and look to your apology for making unsubstantiated defamatory comments.

You’ve no chance of an apology, were did I say you were incorrect about Heath and Britton? What I said was:
Here we go, typical red top nonsense.
Embarrassing comment from a grown man.

Your comments are imflammatory and racist imo.

Answer the question on the Police, What action should they take when allegations are made? Police have said if Heath had still been alive he would of been interviewed under caution on 7 out of the 42 allegations against him, but that shouldn’t been seen as anything proven.

Plenty of victims have come forward and found justice, should the Police ignore them?

 

[SocketRocket]

You’ve no chance of an apology, were did I say you were incorrect about Heath and Britton? What I said was:
Here we go, typical red top nonsense.
Embarrassing comment from a grown man.

Your comments are imflammatory and racist imo.

Answer the question on the Police, What action should they take when allegations are made? Police have said if Heath had still been alive he would of been interviewed under caution on 7 out of the 42 allegations against him, but that shouldn’t been seen as anything proven.

Plenty of victims have come forward and found justice, should the Police ignore them?

Take look at the attached link and remind me how they are racist: ,https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uk...ressed-to-avoid-inflaming-racial-tension.html
Regarding what actions the police should take when allegations are made: They should investigate thoroughly the allegations and the integretory of who makes them. In this inatance it was a complete walter mitty character who has now been proved to be completely wrong. If you defend such people you are indeed guilty of being an embarrassing grown man and even worse unable to own up to it.
Another link for you:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/03/vip-paedophile-accuser-nick-named-first-time-carl-beech/

 

[Hobbit]

There have also been some terrible accusations against people like Ted Heath and Leon Britton based on unstested evidence given by walter mitty accusers backed up by Polticians and Social Workers that have been now dismissed by the Police as having no substance.
Pity the same energy wasn't put into the grooming and sexual exploitation of young girls by gangs with Pakistani Origins because of the concern the Police had of being labled racists.

I'm not sure you're particularly accurate with your comment on the Police being reticent in investigating grooming gangs. 27 Police forces have, or are, investigating 54 cases of grooming gangs. I've just done a quick search of "grooming gangs convicted..." What came as a surprise was the number of gangs convicted, many of which I hadn't previously seen in the news.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Take look at the attached link and remind me how they are racist: ,https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uk...ressed-to-avoid-inflaming-racial-tension.html
Regarding what actions the police should take when allegations are made: They should investigate thoroughly the allegations and the integretory of who makes them. In this inatance it was a complete walter mitty character who has now been proved to be completely wrong. If you defend such people you are indeed guilty of being an embarrassing grown man and even worse unable to own up to it.
Another link for you:https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/03/vip-paedophile-accuser-nick-named-first-time-carl-beech/

I’m defending the Police, I’m not defending anyone who makes false allegations, anyone making false allegations, regardless of offence, who is found to have lied AFTER a Police investigation should be charged.

This thread is about the remarks Johnson made and you brought race into it, I take it we’ve never had white or English grooming gangs?

 

[SocketRocket]

I'm not sure you're particularly accurate with your comment on the Police being reticent in investigating grooming gangs. 27 Police forces have, or are, investigating 54 cases of grooming gangs. I've just done a quick search of "grooming gangs convicted..." What came as a surprise was the number of gangs convicted, many of which I hadn't previously seen in the news.

I think you are correct. My comments were about the historical poor response which the police now agree happened.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I see the first thing that Ruth Davidson does on return from her well planned maternity leave is to ban Johnson from the Scottish Tory conference.

 

[User62651]

I see the first thing that Ruth Davidson does on return from her well planned maternity leave is to ban Johnson from the Scottish Tory conference.

Nice one if that's true about Johnson, think it probably is, man actually proved he is a liar this morning with that retracted tweet. Pity she couldn't ask May to stay away too. Davidson does have some leadership qualities that are sadly lacking these days. I'm glad she's back in politics, like her style, don't always agree with her and she's got her work cut out if the current polling is accurate but a capable politician who absolutely rescued May in the 2017 GE debacle.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Never mind Barking Boris, his pal Michael Grove is currently addressing a crowd of 7 on future Tory agricultural policy in a cupboard at the Scots Tory conference.

 

[Mudball]

Barking Boris sends and deletes his tweet..

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I thought his Leadership campaign launch statement today was mostly empty and, in respect of the question language he uses, quite disgraceful - as were his MP acolytes in jeering the journalist who asked the question. That he didn't even attempt to answer 5 of the 6 questions that were asked and only vaguely accepted that he had used cocaine when he was 19 (though of course in response to another question he hasn't done anything illegal in his life other than maybe speeding.) shows us what's in store.

Steve Bannon anyone?

Anyway - I hope he wins and becomes PM.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Well we won’t be hearing and WoW from Johnson this evening. Opportunity missed to put the other contenders in their place and let the electorate hear what could be on offer from a Johnson PM.

 

[Old Skier]

What's the point of a TV leadership debate. I doubt if anyone on here has the opportunity to vote and those who do have already decided.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

What's the point of a TV leadership debate. I doubt if anyone on here has the opportunity to vote and those who do have already decided.

I’d simply like to hear what our hero has in store for us when he is PM and get a feel for the straight talking he will put into play when negotiating with the EU on a revised deal, and with Trump when we leave with NoDeal on31/10.

 

[ColchesterFC]

I’d simply like to hear what our hero has in store for us when he is PM and get a feel for the straight talking he will put into play when negotiating with the EU on a revised deal.

I think he's scheduled to take part in the next one on BBC on Tuesday (?) so maybe you'll get your wish then.