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The Words of Wisdom of Boris Johnson - Foreign Secretary

Hobbit said:
You’ve seen the dictionary definition for exaggeration I posted up. Remain lied too.

As for the above, a perfect example of the condescension I mentioned. You are now saying the Leavers are too thick to spot a lie. That’s arrogant too.

So you won’t accept a dictionary definition of a lie. I wonder who is gullible or the thick one here?
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Probably us Brian for playing along with his wind up rather than putting him on ignore.
 
Blue in Munich said:
Probably us Brian for playing along with his wind up rather than putting him on ignore.
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O'Brien (as I was talking about him btw since you stated you dislike him so much) suggested that many heard and took in the stuff and tripe spouted by the right wing press and like of Johnson about the EU over many years. And whe you hear the same stuff for decades that sets an environment in which the truth became what the likes of Johnson and Rees-Mogg say. And we believe the truth do we not? That's why O'Brien attacks Johnson and co - and NOT any group of voters.

Meanwhile Johnson apologises for not declaring £52,000 of income - says sorry and that's OK then. A benefits claimant might well get sanctioned and lose his benefits. Ah well - that's just Boris - hahaha...
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Thick? really? You said it. Not me...and I never even suggested it.
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I did, based on recent evidence and the Oxford English Dictionary. I’d like to think I’m wrong, and it’s gullibility.

We need to Remain and change the EU from within but that will be impossible whilst there’s so many EU apologists.
 
Hobbit said:
I did, based on recent evidence and the Oxford English Dictionary. I’d like to think I’m wrong, and it’s gullibility.

We need to Remain and change the EU from within but that will be impossible whilst there’s so many EU apologists.
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I am not apologising for the EU - I am despairing at the continuing lies and deceit from the likes of Johnson and Rees-Mogg - and for those who will suffer most when things do not turn out as Leave has sold. Because what Leave sold is simply not deliverable. And the poorest will suffer. Not Johnson - and as it happens not me. Whatever the outcome will not make much difference financially to me. And my children will most likely be fine given our situation. But there are many who will suffer. And for what. Nothing. Oh sorry - they will be able to wave their blue passport and sing Rule Brittania whilst cheering being a sovereign nation again. Did anyone tell our Sovereign that she had got kidnapped by the EU but we're going to her her back? The only people who will benefit from Leaving the EU will be the richest. Top stuff.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I am not apologising for the EU - I am despairing at the continuing lies and deceit from the likes of Johnson and Rees-Mogg - and for those who will suffer most when things do not turn out as Leave has sold. Because what Leave sold is simply not deliverable. And the poorest will suffer. Not Johnson - and as it happens not me. Whatever the outcome will not make much difference financially to me. And my children will most likely be fine given our situation. But there are many who will suffer. And for what. Nothing. Oh sorry - they will be able to wave their blue passport and sing Rule Brittania whilst cheering being a sovereign nation again. Did anyone tell our Sovereign that she had got kidnapped by the EU but we're going to her her back? The only people who will benefit from Leaving the EU will be the richest. Top stuff.
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And you continue to ignore the OED definition on exaggeration and lies. Remain lied. O'Brien is arrogant and condescending. If you can't see that I feel genuinely sorry for you that you lack a reasoned judgement, viewing both sides of an argument with objectivity.

We all know what may well happen when the UK leaves, not that we believe the liar that is George Osbourne - remember him. "Emergency budget," and "800,000 unemployed in the next year," and "£4,200 worse off by the end of the year." Of course, they were only exaggerations. Exaggerations that a Commons Select Committee and his own Treasury dept publicly called him out on.

And we all know that the OED is no better than the Daily Mail!:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
I see that Johnson seems to have abandoned his taste for a Canada super-dooper deal - and has swung full behind a No-Deal. Now could that have anything to do with the fact that a survey of Tory party members finds a majority in favour of No Deal...

Ah the wit and wisdom of Johnson and Tory Party members (because wanting a No Deal is surely a joke) - but then again a constituency whose average age is 72 (according to the Bow Group) must have very much wisdom indeed - and just the sort of wisdom that no doubt has them looking to Johnson as their saviour, pity the rest of the country.

https://www.bowgroup.org/news/bow-group-finds-average-age-conservative-party-member-72
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I see that Johnson seems to have abandoned his taste for a Canada super-dooper deal - and has swung full behind a No-Deal. Now could that have anything to do with the fact that a survey of Tory party members finds a majority in favour of No Deal...

Ah the wit and wisdom of Johnson and Tory Party members (because wanting a No Deal is surely a joke) - but then again a constituency whose average age is 72 (according to the Bow Group) must have very much wisdom indeed - and just the sort of wisdom that no doubt has them looking to Johnson as their saviour, pity the rest of the country.

https://www.bowgroup.org/news/bow-group-finds-average-age-conservative-party-member-72
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Its just possible he realises that it is structurally impossible for the EU to 'negotiate'. As an organisation it does not have (no person) the delegated powers to 'offer' solutions they can only bat proposals back to the UK/members. Since they need to demonstrate the strength of the 'centre' to other members - this means saying No continuously.

A Boris suggested 'No Deal' would allow a set of 'clean slate' agreements and protocols that may or may not look like the Canada option but going into such a deal with a framework borrowed from a different country is not a wise move.
 
drdel said:
Its just possible he realises that it is structurally impossible for the EU to 'negotiate'. As an organisation it does not have (no person) the delegated powers to 'offer' solutions they can only bat proposals back to the UK/members. Since they need to demonstrate the strength of the 'centre' to other members - this means saying No continuously.

A Boris suggested 'No Deal' would allow a set of 'clean slate' agreements and protocols that may or may not look like the Canada option but going into such a deal with a framework borrowed from a different country is not a wise move.
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yea yea yea, where as we had a crack negotiating team who were on top of things from the start, had an agreed position and maximised that for the benefit of the UK. All the EUs fault so the Daily Telegraph told me.....
 
drdel said:
Its just possible he realises that it is structurally impossible for the EU to 'negotiate'. As an organisation it does not have (no person) the delegated powers to 'offer' solutions they can only bat proposals back to the UK/members. Since they need to demonstrate the strength of the 'centre' to other members - this means saying No continuously.

A Boris suggested 'No Deal' would allow a set of 'clean slate' agreements and protocols that may or may not look like the Canada option but going into such a deal with a framework borrowed from a different country is not a wise move.
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Remind me why he has suddenly dumped Canada plus plus plus? Has something changed in the last month - other than the news from the Tory Party membership. And of course nothing to do with May's Farage, Rees-Mogg and Johnson-supporter pleasing Red Lines that have limited everyone's scope for movement and negotiation?

Johnson is a self-serving chancer of the 1st Order - as he keeps his powder dry letting other lead leavers do the heavy lifting in public at the moment - as he waits and schemes...
 
pauljames87 said:
He’s not wrong though tbh............
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Really! That’s an awful response!

Try telling that to the victims or the families of the victims that committed suicide.

And this from the man who wasted £55 Million on the Garden Bridge.
 
pauldj42 said:
Really! That’s an awful response!

Try telling that to the victims or the families of the victims that committed suicide.

And this from the man who wasted £55 Million on the Garden Bridge.
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I didn’t say he isn’t a massive hypocrite. He isn’t wrong though. Yes what happened to people is awful but investigating someone when their dead is pointless and costs a blooming fortune when we are apparently skint.
 
pauljames87 said:
I didn’t say he isn’t a massive hypocrite. He isn’t wrong though. Yes what happened to people is awful but investigating someone when their dead is pointless and costs a blooming fortune when we are apparently skint.
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Just because the perpatrator is dead doesn’t mean we should ignore the victims or the damage they’ve caused! What if one of these dead Pedo’s was working alongside an abuser who’s still alive!
 
It should be investigated. But it should not come out of police budgets. If it does, where does it end. Government money should be funding this.
 
pauldj42 said:
Just because the perpatrator is dead doesn’t mean we should ignore the victims or the damage they’ve caused! What if one of these dead Pedo’s was working alongside an abuser who’s still alive!
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If somebody is dead they can not defend themselves . In cases of he / she did this or this to me it becomes one persons word against another. The person still alives word suddenly has a massive advantage
 
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