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Mudball said:
So Sunak proposing tax rises, raids on second homes, pension pots to pay for the corona deficit. Unless Boris steps in, Sunak is turning into a Corbyn

Hopefully this is not a u-turn on the Tory idea of low tax
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Hopefully this is a Tory government if fair tax ..
 
Mudball said:
So Sunak proposing tax rises, raids on second homes, pension pots to pay for the corona deficit. Unless Boris steps in, Sunak is turning into a Corbyn

Hopefully this is not a u-turn on the Tory idea of low tax
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Where have you been? Of course there will be increase in taxes.How else will Covid get paid for?
If you have not been expecting this, or think it is a bad policy, I think you need to have a reality check.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Where have you been? Of course there will be increase in taxes.How else will Covid get paid for?
If you have not been expecting this, or think it is a bad policy, I think you need to have a reality check.
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I did not expect any other way... however just pointing out that Corbyn’s ‘socialist’ policies that were rubbished by the Tories are suddenly a toast under Sunak
 
Mudball said:
I did not expect any other way... however just pointing out that Corbyn’s ‘socialist’ policies that were rubbished by the Tories are suddenly a toast under Sunak
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But Corbyn's policies ( which from what you say, I take as being similar, ) were not driven by Covid, i.e a National emergency.
The policies Sunak made would not have been made by any sane government in the status quo before Covid.
E.g Do you really think, that furloughing ,as happened, was a good policy in the absence of Covid?
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Tory Party starts to eat itself again..........same old, same old.
This crew are so clueless that they are now stealing Labour policies in a desperate attempt to gain popularity.
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While harmony in the SNP exists and is maintained only because they have squandered cash handouts over decades and still can't manage failing School etc. and not faced the reality.
 
Kellfire said:
Ah yes, the anti-Semitic Labour Party which is demonstrably not.
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At least, 'not since Corbyn is no longer Leader'! And the Labour Code of Conduct has subsequently included the IHRA Working Definition as its definition of antisemitism in its Code of Conduct.
There's actually a YouGov report that suggests that there's more anti-semitic attitudes among Conservative followers than amongst Labour ones! https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-antisemitism-political-parties
 
Foxholer said:
At least, 'not since Corbyn is no longer Leader'! And the Labour Code of Conduct has subsequently included the IHRA Working Definition as its definition of antisemitism in its Code of Conduct.
There's actually a YouGov report that suggests that there's more anti-semitic attitudes among Conservative followers than amongst Labour ones! https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-antisemitism-political-parties
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Of course there is - Tory supporters are right wing and exclusive so are clearly less likely to show any sort of compassion towards those who may be seen as different. But don’t let the truth stand in the way of the lies whipped up by the right wing to try and muddy the waters.
 
Kellfire said:
Of course there is - Tory supporters are right wing and exclusive so are clearly less likely to show any sort of compassion towards those who may be seen as different. But don’t let the truth stand in the way of the lies whipped up by the right wing to try and muddy the waters.
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That simply demonstrates your own irrational bigotry! There are still plenty of anti-semetic views in Labour supporters!
 
Foxholer said:
That simply demonstrates your own irrational bigotry! There are still plenty of anti-semetic views in Labour supporters!
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Definitely there will be. I didn’t say there isn’t. But we all know which of the two sets of supporters are generally less inclusive and are more likely to demonstrate extreme views like racism, sexism etc. I don’t think anyone would seriously claim otherwise.
 
Kellfire said:
Definitely there will be. I didn’t say there isn’t. But we all know which of the two sets of supporters are generally less inclusive and are more likely to demonstrate extreme views like racism, sexism etc. I don’t think anyone would seriously claim otherwise.
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I'm definitely unconvinced that that is the case, but you are welcome to your own opinion! The entire antisemitism argument (a specific case of racism after all) could likely easily have been turned around if (simply) that was the case!
 
Foxholer said:
I'm definitely unconvinced that that is the case, but you are welcome to your own opinion! The entire antisemitism argument (a specific case of racism after all) could likely easily have been turned around if (simply) that was the case!
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You believe people who hold left wing views are more likely to be racist and sexist?
 
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