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The Words of Wisdom of Boris Johnson - Foreign Secretary

patricks148 said:
None of these Jokers fill me with confidence TBH, the wife thinks Rory the Tory buts then she is a Labour activist an not voting in this;) that will be all the rabid Brexiters so it won't be a surprise who we get:cry:
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After listening to some Tory voters commenting straight after the debate (rad 4 this morning) they were still mainly behind BJ. So what's the point of debate? Ricky Moranis won, I thought and he is pinning his hopes on his Master Plan and attacking corbin. I thought he was THE BEST prepared candidate of the lot. JH was ok too. So the Remoaners seem to have the best candidates. Will this get them over the line or are the Tory members ready to get out without a deal, which is the ONLY option?
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Last night none of the famous five guaranteed to take us out of the EU by the Tory Party's own deadline date [the one they voted for]
No hands up when the presenter asked.:unsure:
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Yup saw that and commented at the time. Rory also went directly against something he was behind the previous day on Good Morning. So another one not to trust.
 
Crazyface said:
After listening to some Tory voters commenting straight after the debate (rad 4 this morning) they were still mainly behind BJ. So what's the point of debate? Ricky Moranis won, I thought and he is pinning his hopes on his Master Plan and attacking corbin. I thought he was THE BEST prepared candidate of the lot. JH was ok too. So the Remoaners seem to have the best candidates. Will this get them over the line or are the Tory members ready to get out without a deal, which is the ONLY option?
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Who are you calling Rick Moranis? not hear of that before?
 
Johnson to spend leadership campaign dangling from a zip-wire in Macclesfield
17th June 2019

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BORIS Johnson is to spend the rest of the Tory leadership campaign suspended 40ft above an Asda car park in Macclesfield.
The frontrunner said he will be ‘incredibly visible’ for the next five weeks but ‘may not be able’ to answer detailed questions about his policies or character.

A spokesman said: “Dangling from a zip-wire while waving little flags is Boris at his best.
“It’s what the party membership wants from him and it sends a bold, uncompromising message to the EU.
“He also thinks that zip-wires are the best solution to the Irish back-stop. You can’t have a hard border if it’s 40ft above the ground. He wants to be sure that the zip-wires could cope with an 18-tonne lorry full of pigs.
“He’s also very excited about going to the toilet while dangling in mid-air.”



Fake News!!! We don't have an ASDA !!!
 
MegaSteve said:
His constituents are still hoping he'll honour his promise of laying down in front of the diggers when they come to build the third runway...
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iirc he went off on a meaningless trip to afghanistan at the taxpayers expense purely so he could avoid having to vote on the runway plan.

also he refused to cut short his holiday to deal with the London riots when he was mayor.

Putting political views aside, how anyone can think he has the right kind of character to lead the country is beyond me. He will be a disaster.
 
An astute comment I read on twitter was:

'Boris Johnson doesn't want to be PM, he wants to have been PM'.

I thought it rang true. He doesn't want to put the effort required into doing the job, too hard, that will all get delegated, he just wants the accolades, honour, badge and history of having been PM.

Imagine the US after dinner speeches circuit revenues.;)
 
maxfli65 said:
An astute comment I read on twitter was:

'Boris Johnson doesn't want to be PM, he wants to have been PM'.

I thought it rang true. He doesn't want to put the effort required into doing the job, too hard, that will all get delegated, he just wants the accolades, honour, badge and history of having been PM.

Imagine the US after dinner speeches circuit revenues.;)
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Is that actually such a bad idea? Just let Boris live at No.10 and pretend to be PM and then have all the important stuff delegated out to people who are at least a little bit more competent.
 
maxfli65 said:
An astute comment I read on twitter was:

'Boris Johnson doesn't want to be PM, he wants to have been PM'.

I thought it rang true. He doesn't want to put the effort required into doing the job, too hard, that will all get delegated, he just wants the accolades, honour, badge and history of having been PM.

Imagine the US after dinner speeches circuit revenues.;)
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Did he actually say that or did someone writing an editorial suggest it?
 
Honestly. Is this guy really our Prime Minister? What was in his glass? And what on earth was he blustering on about - waving his hands all over the place as if he's Simon bleedin' Rattle...


Anyhow - some truths from him. NI has got a great deal - keeps free movement; keeps free access to the Single Market; keeps unfettered access to the GB (actually so not true that you wonder if he understands what he has negotiated - or maybe he thinks if he lies in public enough times folks will end up believing him)

Well yes - it's a great deal for NI - in fact much better than the rest of the UK for which the deal is not so great. And yes - some of us are very aware of that.
 
What an absolute blowbag.(n)
The look on his audience's faces as they try to decipher his mumblings is quite priceless. The guy on the left needs a 'what on earth have we done' bubble attached.

Any sensible reason why Scotland cannot have the same GREAT DEAL as NI . That would then allow England and Wales float off into the wonderful isolation they seem to crave.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
What an absolute blowbag.(n)
The look on his audience's faces as they try to decipher his mumblings is quite priceless. The guy on the left needs a 'what on earth have we done' bubble attached.

Any sensible reason why Scotland cannot have the same GREAT DEAL as NI . That would then allow England and Wales float off into the wonderful isolation they seem to crave.
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Surely even you can understand the clear difference between NI and Scotland why the deal and why Scotland clearly can’t have the same one
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Honestly. Is this guy really our Prime Minister? What was in his glass? And what on earth was he blustering on about - waving his hands all over the place as if he's Simon bleedin' Rattle...


Anyhow - some truths from him. NI has got a great deal - keeps free movement; keeps free access to the Single Market; keeps unfettered access to the GB (actually so not true that you wonder if he understands what he has negotiated - or maybe he thinks if he lies in public enough times folks will end up believing him)

Well yes - it's a great deal for NI - in fact much better than the rest of the UK for which the deal is not so great. And yes - some of us are very aware of that.
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Did you really not understand what he said? Or are you being deliberately obtuse? Methinks you'd made your mind up before he'd even opened his mouth. And for all those that said there'd be a customs border between NI and the UK, ha-bloody-ha. Look pretty foolish now don't you.
 
Hobbit said:
Did you really not understand what he said? Or are you being deliberately obtuse? Methinks you'd made your mind up before he'd even opened his mouth. And for all those that said there'd be a customs border between NI and the UK, ha-bloody-ha. Look pretty foolish now don't you.
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If there was a poll I'd select "deliberately obtuse" but even if there was one he'd insist we'd need a second, or even third vote to get it right 👍
 
Hobbit said:
Did you really not understand what he said? Or are you being deliberately obtuse? Methinks you'd made your mind up before he'd even opened his mouth. And for all those that said there'd be a customs border between NI and the UK, ha-bloody-ha. Look pretty foolish now don't you.
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Eh? Johnson actually says '..there will not be checks...on goods going from NI to Great Britain...you have, as it says in the deal, unfettered access to the GB' - and we know that there will be, and we know that it doesn't?

And if I have misunderstood - then so have very many informed commentators.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Eh? Johnson actually says '..there will not be checks...on goods going from NI to Great Britain...you have, as it says in the deal, unfettered access to the GB' - and we know that there will be, and we know that it doesn't?

And if I have misunderstood - then so have very many informed commentators.
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The checks will be on goods that originated from Ireland, not Northern Ireland. Same going the other way. Goods from the UK will only be subject to checks if their end destination is Ireland. I posted up a link a week or so back with the detail but, as usual, some prefer to ignore the detail, preferring to jump on the bandwagon of hysteria.

Don't get me wrong Hugh, I detest Johnson. He is the UK's version of Trump in so many ways, and not far behind Farage in my eyes, but if we're going to have a proper debate lets keep it to facts, not political soundbites.
 
Hobbit said:
The checks will be on goods that originated from Ireland, not Northern Ireland. Same going the other way. Goods from the UK will only be subject to checks if their end destination is Ireland. I posted up a link a week or so back with the detail but, as usual, some prefer to ignore the detail, preferring to jump on the bandwagon of hysteria.

Don't get me wrong Hugh, I detest Johnson. He is the UK's version of Trump in so many ways, and not far behind Farage in my eyes, but if we're going to have a proper debate lets keep it to facts, not political soundbites.
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But there will still be checks on vehicles travelling from NI to rUK, because some will contain EU-sourced goods - full or part load - and for Unionists it is that sign of a 'border' that is surely the main issue, as trucks containing NI-only originated goods are held up by checks on other vehicles - or have to demonstrate in some way that they only contain NI-sourced goods.

Apart from that - I do like that Johnson was selling the benefits to NI of full single market access and freedom of movement. Pity the rUK won't have that and so by definition the rUK will be less advantaged...and over to Nicola.
 
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