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The Words of Wisdom of Boris Johnson - Foreign Secretary

Who'd make a good foreign secretary then? - Amber Rudd back might make most sense, important post, not one for a newbie.
 
So he raises a glass to toast the PM and promised to support her Brexit deal.
Davis resigns then he changes his mind, that oafish boy/man is nearly as two faced as Gove.


He is toast within the Tory party now, according to Mathew Parris.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
So he raises a glass to toast the PM and promised to support her Brexit deal.
Davis resigns then he changes his mind, that oafish boy/man is nearly as two faced as Gove.


He is toast within the Tory party now, according to Mathew Parris.
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There is something about Gove that I do not mind - and somethings (plural) that I don't.

I found his interview on Marr rather excruciating but also quite impressive as he tried oh so very hard to explain how GOOD May's proposed deal is - referencing farming and fisheries and little else (as if that was all that actually mattered). Will he maintain that position? I think he will. So yes - based upon yesterday - a shoe in for Foreign Secretary? If he wants it. But he'll most likely then be inside the Brexit Negotiation tent in a way that Johnson was excluded.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
There is something about Gove that I do not mind - and somethings (plural) that I don't.

I found his interview on Marr rather excruciating but also quite impressive as he tried oh so very hard to explain how GOOD May's proposed deal is - referencing farming and fisheries and little else (as if that was all that actually mattered). Will he maintain that position? I think he will. So yes - based upon yesterday - a shoe in for Foreign Secretary? If he wants it. But he'll most likely then be inside the Brexit Negotiation tent in a way that Johnson was excluded.
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Sorry, clumsily written Boris is toast.

Gove is actually doing a decent job at Environment, it pains me to say.
Not so great at education, with a poor brief of what's actually occurring in Scotland.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Waiting for some words of wisdom from our Foreign Secretary.

For any principled person in his position with his views the words would be 'I resign'

But we have learnt how principled our Foreign Secretary is - well Principle #1 is 'I will at all times look after #1'
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So now he’s resigned does that mean you’ll be acknowledging that he has acted in a principled manner, or just be looking for something else to slag him off over?
 
Blue in Munich said:
So now he’s resigned does that mean you’ll be acknowledging that he has acted in a principled manner, or just be looking for something else to slag him off over?
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I think you seem to have forgotten that a few hours before his resignation he proposed a toast to the PM and promised her his support.
Totally unprincipled backstabber.


I think he only hung on as he did not want the public to see his humiliation of leaving Chequers in a taxi.:lol:
It also looks like the PM was about to sack him for disloyalty.
 
Blue in Munich said:
So now he’s resigned does that mean you’ll be acknowledging that he has acted in a principled manner, or just be looking for something else to slag him off over?
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Honestly seemed like because Davis left on principle that forced a similar move from Johnson. Davis is the principled one here as the one who couldn't commit to his remit as he didn't believe in it so stood down, Johnson looks the guy who got politically cornered. Friday was when he needed to stand up and say 'No I can't agree' and leave, first out. Farage and co had put the boot into 'feeble' Cabinet Brexiteers welching on hard brexit over the weekend. By Monday it was too late for Johnson.
 
Blue in Munich said:
So now he’s resigned does that mean you’ll be acknowledging that he has acted in a principled manner, or just be looking for something else to slag him off over?
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Are you for real - you seriously suggesting that Johnson acted in a principled manner? Just read his resignation letter. The language of that letter - the talking about UK becoming a Colony; that Brexit is being suffocated by unnecessary indecision - is not for the Prime Minister's eyes and ears . That is Johnson setting out his stall for a bid to replace May - using the sort of nationalistic populist hubris that many who are convinced that he is 'the one' will just lap out almost without question.

He has been waiting for this moment, when the REALITY of Brexit and trying to get a Deal that is not seriously damaging to the UK becomes evident - as it became evident in the proposal document that May presented to the Cabinet for discussion. And there was always going to have to be that point - when the realities are written down - that Johnson can dismiss with a flourish without an alternative.

As an aside - I would like to see the contents of the presentation that was made beforehand in support of the proposal. The presentation that outlines the rationale behind her proposal. We need to see that aso. May needs to let us see that.
 
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The vitriol and insults posted by a few here about someone they have never met or interacted with is a sad example of a subset of society.

The thread has run its course and should IMO be terminated.
 
Will BoJo get elected in the next election? What are the odds?

He has gone back on his Heathrow promise,.. has had a pantomime as a Foreign secretary... probably done well with Brexit (though Uxbridge as part of London voted to stay)... So what are his chances..

I would bet my money on him getting re-elected.. and that will probably be down to no other credible opposition against him..
 
Mudball said:
Will BoJo get elected in the next election? What are the odds?

He has gone back on his Heathrow promise,.. has had a pantomime as a Foreign secretary... probably done well with Brexit (though Uxbridge as part of London voted to stay)... So what are his chances..

I would bet my money on him getting re-elected.. and that will probably be down to no other credible opposition against him..
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He'll keep his seat but whether or not he becomes a front bench MP again or not remains to be seen.
 
drdel said:
The vitriol and insults posted by a few here about someone they have never met or interacted with is a sad example of a subset of society.

The thread has run its course and should IMO be terminated.
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So because people haven't met him face to face they can't have an opinion and the thread should be terminated? Don't be a child! It's not as if there isn't enough of him out there!

I never met Hitler either...
 
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