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The Words of Wisdom of Boris Johnson - Foreign Secretary

gmc40 said:
So because people haven't met him face to face they can't have an opinion and the thread should be terminated? Don't be a child! It's not as if there isn't enough of him out there!

I never met Hitler either...
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Of course everyone can have an opinion and are entitled to it: its the language used that is the issue and to which I draw attention - I'd respectfully suggest it is not I who is childish but those who use extreme language on a public forum simply for effect or keyboard bravado.
 
drdel said:
The vitriol and insults posted by a few here about someone they have never met or interacted with is a sad example of a subset of society.

The thread has run its course and should IMO be terminated.
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I think Johnson's words and actions speak well enough for 'the majority' on here to form a negative opinion of him.

Wanting another thread closed because you disagree with the way it is going....seems to be a trend on here.
 
thread will remain open

as if we close it, some nutter will just start another one in the same vein and its so much easier to police if all the crud is in one place :)

Same applies to Article 50

Hush Ma Mouth
 
PhilTheFragger said:
thread will remain open

as if we close it, some nutter will just start another one in the same vein and its so much easier to police if all the crud is in one place :)

Same applies to Article 50

Hush Ma Mouth
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:lol: Well done Phil.

Seemingly the two Tory vice chairs have resigned over Brexit.

Now......can anyone on here name them without resorting to the dark side.:o
 
drdel said:
Of course everyone can have an opinion and are entitled to it: its the language used that is the issue and to which I draw attention - I'd respectfully suggest it is not I who is childish but those who use extreme language on a public forum simply for effect or keyboard bravado.
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What extreme language? I haven't read any. Pretty certain it is not permitted on this forum.
 
drdel said:
The vitriol and insults posted by a few here about someone they have never met or interacted with is a sad example of a subset of society.

The thread has run its course and should IMO be terminated.
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You referring to the multiple threads where Jean-Claude Juncker has been described as a drunk or drunkard.
 
Bojo has lost his salary and car but back with his snout in the trough as a Telegraph columnist £275K . Couldn't even manage to do that without breaking the rule that a minister shouldn't take on such an appointment until 3 months after his departure from post. The posed " Churchillian" resignation photo, the Geoffrey Howe location for his valedictory sniping - he's so far up is own backside he must see daylight.
 
hors limite said:
Bojo has lost his salary and car but back with his snout in the trough as a Telegraph columnist £275K . Couldn't even manage to do that without breaking the rule that a minister shouldn't take on such an appointment until 3 months after his departure from post. The posed " Churchillian" resignation photo, the Geoffrey Howe location for his valedictory sniping - he's so far up is own backside he must see daylight.
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And yet still so many think that he could be Prime Minister - after all is he not a decent, honest and trustworthy person with only the best for the UK at heart and willing to sacrifice much to that end.

erm...hold on...some don't agree...

I misspoke - what I said - or what I meant to say - and just in case I was not clear - was 'so many think he couldn't be Prime Minister'. So that's all clear now.
 
niqab-wearing women look like letter-boxes...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...muslim-women-letter-boxes-trump-a8479306.html

Why the heck is he saying this sort of stuff - to what end?

I can only think that his target audience for his comment on niqab-wearing women is aimed at the Conservative Party membership - that group whose favour he wishes to build and maintain favour with.

And that is so sad - both that he might consider such statements acceptable in his quest to replace May and (God forbid) become Prime Minister, and that he thinks there is an admiring and accepting audience out there listening to him.

By his words and actions - behind the jolly, bumbling facade, he really seems to be a scheming, devious and not very nice person.

I hope the Conservative party membership treat his words with the disdain they deserve.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
niqab-wearing women look like letter-boxes...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...muslim-women-letter-boxes-trump-a8479306.html

Why the heck is he saying this sort of stuff - to what end?

I can only think that his target audience for his comment on niqab-wearing women is aimed at the Conservative Party membership - that group whose favour he wishes to build and maintain favour with.

And that is so sad - both that he might consider such statements acceptable in his quest to replace May and (God forbid) become Prime Minister, and that he thinks there is an admiring and accepting audience out there listening to him.

By his words and actions - behind the jolly, bumbling facade, he really seems to be a scheming, devious and not very nice person.

I hope the Conservative party membership treat his words with the disdain they deserve.
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Yawn!
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
niqab-wearing women look like letter-boxes...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...muslim-women-letter-boxes-trump-a8479306.html

Why the heck is he saying this sort of stuff - to what end?

I can only think that his target audience for his comment on niqab-wearing women is aimed at the Conservative Party membership - that group whose favour he wishes to build and maintain favour with.

And that is so sad - both that he might consider such statements acceptable in his quest to replace May and (God forbid) become Prime Minister, and that he thinks there is an admiring and accepting audience out there listening to him.

By his words and actions - behind the jolly, bumbling facade, he really seems to be a scheming, devious and not very nice person.

I hope the Conservative party membership treat his words with the disdain they deserve.
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And he also decried the fact that the first conviction for wearing a niqab has just happened in Denmark. He also said he hoped said laws are never introduced in the UK. He made his feelings well known about freedom of choice, and expected that the wearing of such head dresses will die out naturally, as it is starting to do.

His comments about letter boxes is crass and insensitive but in the wider context of what he said it’s clear his feelings are a lot more balanced than to label him as you have.
 
Hobbit said:
And he also decried the fact that the first conviction for wearing a niqab has just happened in Denmark. He also said he hoped said laws are never introduced in the UK. He made his feelings well known about freedom of choice, and expected that the wearing of such head dresses will die out naturally, as it is starting to do.

His comments about letter boxes is crass and insensitive but in the wider context of what he said it’s clear his feelings are a lot more balanced than to label him as you have.
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I don't disagree that he was making a valid point about it not being the right thing to ban forms of dress specific to muslim women.

My point was not that he was being islamophobic in his comments - and I didn't suggest that he was - rather than it is surely insensitive if not unwise to mock a dress code that some in the muslim community take very seriously.

He just didn't need to say the mocking words that he wrote. That he did I can only think that he was pandering to a constituency in the Conservative Party who might think it funny and representative of their views - and that his mocking words show his true feelings - and theirs. And whilst such mocking thoughts undoubtedly extend beyond the Conservative Party - it is only Conservative Party members who will get to vote, if it comes to it, on a new Con party leader.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
He just didn't need to say the mocking words that he wrote. That he did I can only think that he was pandering to a constituency in the Conservative Party who might think it funny and representative of their views - and that his mocking words show his true feelings - and theirs. And whilst such mocking thoughts undoubtedly extend beyond the Conservative Party - it is only Conservative Party members who will get to vote, if it comes to it, on a new Con party leader.
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And is comments like these he makes could ensure that those members who do vote ensure he doesn't get anywhere.
 
Old Skier said:
And is comments like these he makes could ensure that those members who do vote ensure he doesn't get anywhere.
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I hope you are correct - but in every joke aimed at an individual or any group there always is a kernal of truth - and that truth could be in his observations of the niqab - or it could be a glimpse into what he feels his audience will actually be thinking when reading his words.
 
Like other countries, I personally think this item of clothing should be banned in the UK.
It is extremely rude to be unable to see someone's face and mouth, particularly in conversation. Furthermore it's open to abuse as anybody could be under that item, e.g. a wanted terrorist escaped by wearing one.
Despicable piece of clothing
 
Not sure and never can understand why someone gets so upset by an item of clothing. Doesn’t bother me one bit and I respect their right to be able to wear an item of clothing in line with their culture and religion. A burka never hurt anyone. It’s also extremely rude to not respect people’s wishes and rights
 
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