The state of greens?

I can't remember off the top of my head what the figures were by Pelz in his Putting Bible gives a number for the amount of 6 footers a pro, low single figure, high single figure, mid handicapper and beginner should make. Funnily enough even for the top guys it wasn't 100%.

The point is you aren't going to make everything all the time. Our greens are probably the ugliest around but they do putt true even if they aren't horrifically quick. At least you can pick a line and trust it.
 
I would be interested to see if people could confirm whether they are playing on a well kept private course or local municipal when commenting on the state of the greens to see if this affects how well they are kept.
I play on a muni and they are not very good at the moment (polite version) :(
We have a new head grass cutter, I won't call them green keepers, who is a bit of a Pooh Bah i.e. talks a good game.
 
Mine is a pay and play course and the green keepers are only cutting holes once a week so crowning is noticeable. They are usually cut on a Friday ready for the weekend club competitions. It makes a massive difference putting to a freshly cut hole and while I agree that it's down to us to judge the line perfectly the odds are much more in our favour without having this unnecessary hazard. As it only takes a few minutes to cut a hole I cannot see what the issue is. Can't see the tour pros putting up with some of the rubbish we have to.
 
they have got a lot better recently! rolling a lot smoother and better! fairways are still a bit hard and the rough a bit batchy but the work if starting to pay off and its always improving!
 
Mine is a private club. The greens look really ugly and some still have some moss from winter in. However you can pick your line and they still run really true and I guess that is all you can ask.
 
Mine is a pay and play course and the green keepers are only cutting holes once a week so crowning is noticeable. They are usually cut on a Friday ready for the weekend club competitions. It makes a massive difference putting to a freshly cut hole and while I agree that it's down to us to judge the line perfectly the odds are much more in our favour without having this unnecessary hazard. As it only takes a few minutes to cut a hole I cannot see what the issue is. Can't see the tour pros putting up with some of the rubbish we have to.
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Not quite sure what you are saying here Satch.

Crowning, if indeed it does occur (see earlier post), is usually associated with freshly cut holes where the surrounding turf is "lifted" a tad when the new hole plug is removed. However, the way I interpret your post is that you find find putting to freshly cut holes easier :D :D

Where the same hole position has been in use for a few days the area 12/36" away from the hole has obviously been subject to a lot of foot traffic and it's possible that it may be slightly "sunken" in comparison to the hole.

Once again, it's not the fault of the greenkeepers or other golfers if you miss the putt. It's down to your read of the putt and your putting stroke.

Your comment about Tour Pros putting up with your greens is totally irrelevant. They don't have to as the courses they play must have dozens of greenkeeping staff preparing the course just for that one comp. Our everyday courses don't have that luxury.

Also. don't forget that the pros initially had to learn their skills often on "ordinary" courses.
 
I used to play at a Muni and the greens were fabulous to look at and putt on, the only problem was they were like concrete in summer.

I now play at Ascot and as Homer said, they look ugly but putt well.
 
Mine is a pay and play course and the green keepers are only cutting holes once a week so crowning is noticeable. They are usually cut on a Friday ready for the weekend club competitions. It makes a massive difference putting to a freshly cut hole and while I agree that it's down to us to judge the line perfectly the odds are much more in our favour without having this unnecessary hazard. As it only takes a few minutes to cut a hole I cannot see what the issue is. Can't see the tour pros putting up with some of the rubbish we have to.
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Not quite sure what you are saying here Satch.

Crowning, if indeed it does occur (see earlier post), is usually associated with freshly cut holes where the surrounding turf is "lifted" a tad when the new hole plug is removed. However, the way I interpret your post is that you find find putting to freshly cut holes easier :D :D

Where the same hole position has been in use for a few days the area 12/36" away from the hole has obviously been subject to a lot of foot traffic and it's possible that it may be slightly "sunken" in comparison to the hole.

Once again, it's not the fault of the greenkeepers or other golfers if you miss the putt. It's down to your read of the putt and your putting stroke.

Your comment about Tour Pros putting up with your greens is totally irrelevant. They don't have to as the courses they play must have dozens of greenkeeping staff preparing the course just for that one comp. Our everyday courses don't have that luxury.

Also. don't forget that the pros initially had to learn their skills often on "ordinary" courses.
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Leftie, I'm getting my terminology mixed up in my old age. Yes, I am referring to the sunken, spiked area 6 inches around the hole which after nearly a week of heavy use makes it feel as if I am putting into an upturned saucer. I just get annoyed that it is a quick fix and given my green dyslexia I need all the help I can get.
 
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