The next PM.

[Hacker Khan]

Having been to one hustings and watched 2 others live, take it from me , of what I have seen/ talked about and heard, Boris is heading for No.10, yes Hunt does stand a chance, seeing as he’s the only other standing, but I can’t see it.
I believe he can reunite the party ( Boris) yes you will still have a few dinosaurs not willing to listen or do right for the party or the UK, but thankfully I can’t see the party voting for a May Clone which would banish them from power and forcing them to form a coalition with the Brexit patty.
Labour will not stand a chance at a general election with Steptoe in charge and with the SNP on the slide, there is a feeling of hope once again in the party with Bojo in charge.

Unfortunately those two things are often not the same thing. One could argue that the last 3 years have mostly consisted of the Tory party trying to do what it right for the Tory party, and not really what is right for the UK as we are hardly the posterboys for quality governance at the moment. You could well have a leader that unites the tory party but is relatively toxic to non party diehards. And if a main part of the strategy is to rely on the opposition leader being so rubbish then it's hardly aspirational stuff. And you could apply that argument to Labour as well.

 

[Hacker Khan]

The Labour argument, do as I say, not as I do.

How much say does a 5 or 11 year old have in the type of school they are attending? Are we supposed to say someone is a hypocrite as their parents sent them to public/grammar school yet they want the state school system to succeed later in life? Is it is crime to for a parent to want the best for their child and thinking that the way to do that is to send them to a better school? Should the parents pause to think if that is the right call as several decades later their child may want to improve education for all pupils but they might get called out based on mostly silly political tribalism? Both my parents went to grammar schools and then ended up as senior leaders in state schools, were they hypocrites?

As I said, silly reductive argument that if someone went to one type of school they can't champion other types.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Having been to one hustings and watched 2 others live, take it from me , of what I have seen/ talked about and heard, Boris is heading for No.10, yes Hunt does stand a chance, seeing as he’s the only other standing, but I can’t see it.
I believe he can reunite the party ( Boris) yes you will still have a few dinosaurs not willing to listen or do right for the party or the UK, but thankfully I can’t see the party voting for a May Clone which would banish them from power and forcing them to form a coalition with the Brexit patty.
Labour will not stand a chance at a general election with Steptoe in charge and with the SNP on the slide, there is a feeling of hope once again in the party with Bojo in charge.

SNP on the slide, I would like evidence of that please.
Unless you mean slide out of the UK.
In which case your party will rule forever in England and Wales.

 

[Old Skier]

How much say does a 5 or 11 year old have in the type of school they are attending? Are we supposed to say someone is a hypocrite as their parents sent them to public/grammar school yet they want the state school system to succeed later in life? Is it is crime to for a parent to want the best for their child and thinking that the way to do that is to send them to a better school? Should the parents pause to think if that is the right call as several decades later their child may want to improve education for all pupils but they might get called out based on mostly silly political tribalism? Both my parents went to grammar schools and then ended up as senior leaders in state schools, were they hypocrites?

As I said, silly reductive argument that if someone went to one type of school they can't champion other types.

I don't mind anyone backing state schools but the continued snipping at those who were fortunate enough to go private by those who attended private is the hypocritical part. Surely if Labour are so desperate to support the state school system they should stop sending their children to private schools. There have been a number of high profile Labour MPs who feel it appropriate to send their children down the private route.

Me and all my siblings were state school kids so I have no axe to grind either way.

 

[Hobbit]

I don't mind anyone backing state schools but the continued snipping at those who were fortunate enough to go private by those who attended private is the hypocritical part. Surely if Labour are so desperate to support the state school system they should stop sending their children to private schools. There have been a number of high profile Labour MPs who feel it appropriate to send their children down the private route.

Me and all my siblings were state school kids so I have no axe to grind either way.

I'd add to that Labour's continued attacks on Grammar schools, potentially, stops those who can't afford private schools but can afford the opportunity of getting their children into a Grammar is wholly wrong.

Championing state schools, absolutely right, but the Grammar is a state school. Corbyn looks to remove the opportunity of the Grammar for so many parents who, at best, can only aspire to a Grammar school education for their children. Seeking to remove the choice of the less wealthy whilst he himself and his children benefited from a private education he and his parents could afford is hypocritical. If he were including Grammar in his desire to see State schools improve, fine, but he isn't.

Maybe the reductive reasoning argument could also be applied to Labour's attack on Grammar schools...

 

[MegaSteve]

Back on topic... Our next PM...

Here's hoping the next incumbent crashes the tory majority in the same manner he has managed since rocking up in Uxbridge... Never knowingly delivered on a promise... Well, not to the hoi polloi anyway...

 

[SocketRocket]

Back on topic... Our next PM...

Here's hoping the next incumbent crashes the tory majority in the same manner he has managed since rocking up in Uxbridge... Never knowingly delivered on a promise... Well, not to the hoi polloi anyway...

Sounds like you are looking forward to a Corbyn Fest.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I don't mind anyone backing state schools but the continued snipping at those who were fortunate enough to go private by those who attended private is the hypocritical part. Surely if Labour are so desperate to support the state school system they should stop sending their children to private schools. There have been a number of high profile Labour MPs who feel it appropriate to send their children down the private route.

Me and all my siblings were state school kids so I have no axe to grind either way.

But in reality what will that achieve? It is purely a PR thing, straight out of 'The Thick of It' series 3. Education funding is not in a state because Michael Foot sends his kids to Eton.

Anyway, it seems Bojo will sort it out as he's promising to roll back education cuts made by his government. https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...e/news/104924/boris-johnson-vows-reverse-tory . If he does that, and it goes to all pupils, not just a small bribe to win votes by focusing the increased money in mostly Tory voting areas, then fair play and I'll doff my cap to him. As to be honest I think will have a much more meaningful impact on the prosperity of this country than bloody brexit will. It would be so nice to hear just one Tory member saying 'I like what Boris is saying about education so I'll vote for him' rather than seemingly basing the choice exclusively on his Brexit policy.

 

[MegaSteve]

Sounds like you are looking forward to a Corbyn Fest.

Despite my braying for a GE I am not expecting an early visit to the polls... By the time of the next scheduled visit I suspect Jezza to be no longer leader of the Labour party and for the electorate to have had enough of Boris...

 

[Taz]

'Forgetting we are a parliamentary democracy Remainers endlessly complain at the way the Tory party is choosing its leader... I’m not noticing many complain at the way leaders of the EU bureaucracy are(n’t) being chosen behind closed doors in Brussels. '

 

[Hobbit]

'Forgetting we are a parliamentary democracy Remainers endlessly complain at the way the Tory party is choosing its leader... I’m not noticing many complain at the way leaders of the EU bureaucracy are(n’t) being chosen behind closed doors in Brussels. '

2 negatives don't make a positive.

How any party chooses its leader is surely up to its members. Why should a Labour supporter get to choose a Tory Leader, and vice versa? As for whether or not that means that leader is also the PM, what has that got to do with it? Who votes for a leader based purely on personality? And who votes for a govt based who the leader is?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I see the 400 members of the Tory Party in NI have had the I chance of weighing up who to vote for.

 

[Hobbit]

I see the 400 members of the Tory Party in NI have had the I chance of weighing up who to vote for.

What sort of twisted logic are you dispensing Doom? Do you think every single member of the Tory party, all 160,000, will attend a husting? Do you think some of them will attend more than 1 husting?

Surely you can bit a bit more creative with your shallow musings?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

What sort of twisted logic are you dispensing Doom? Do you think every single member of the Tory party, all 160,000, will attend a husting? Do you think some of them will attend more than 1 husting?

Surely you can bit a bit more creative with your shallow musings?

Just pointing out the surprising [to me] fact that the Tory party have as little as 400 committed members in that part of the UK.
That's probably less than your golf club membership.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Jeremy Hunt would like to see the return of fox hunting and will allow a free vote on it should he become MP . Go Boris (never thought I would say that. I'm going to wash myself down now, I feel dirty)

 

[MegaSteve]

Jeremy Hunt would like to see the return of fox hunting and will allow a free vote on it should he become MP . Go Boris (never thought I would say that. I'm going to wash myself down now, I feel dirty)

That will be a real vote winner at the next GE whilst teaching them treehuggers a lesson for interrupting a meeting for the chosen few...

Do like a bit of them and us does team blue...

 

[bobmac]

Jeremy Hunt would like to see the return of fox hunting and will allow a free vote on it should he become MP . Go Boris (never thought I would say that. I'm going to wash myself down now, I feel dirty)

Who, this guy?

 

[drdel]

Jeremy Hunt would like to see the return of fox hunting and will allow a free vote on it should he become MP . Go Boris (never thought I would say that. I'm going to wash myself down now, I feel dirty)

That's not accurate. He was asked loads of off-the-wall questions, one of which was his position on hunting. He merely said that it was way down in his priorities but if there was pressure too have another debate he would give the House a free vote. At no point did he say he'd like to see it return

 

[Lord Tyrion]

That's not accurate. He was asked loads of off-the-wall questions, one of which was his position on hunting. He merely said that it was way down in his priorities but if there was pressure too have another debate he would give the House a free vote. At no point did he say he'd like to see it return

Mr Hunt wrote in the Daily Telegraph: "[Hunting] is part of the countryside. And we have to recognise that in terms of the balance of the countryside. You know, it's part of our heritage."

He added that he would support a free vote among MPs when there was a majority in Parliament "that would be likely" to lift the ban in England.

The above tends to suggest he supports it.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Mr Hunt wrote in the Daily Telegraph: "[Hunting] is part of the countryside. And we have to recognise that in terms of the balance of the countryside. You know, it's part of our heritage."

He added that he would support a free vote among MPs when there was a majority in Parliament "that would be likely" to lift the ban in England.

The above tends to suggest he supports it.

It's just part of the game they are both playing where they are trying to appeal to the most ardent Daily Telegraph reading hard brexiting little Englander who will make them Tory leader and also the more moderate ones who they need on side to get any majority when the upcoming general election happens. Without definitely pledging anything concrete of substance as they know most of the stuff they are inferring won't actually happen.