Old Skier
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New concept, it's called selective democracy.
The next PM.
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New concept, it's called selective democracy.
Good idea. And when its done we can hold another GE after the LibDem's leadership contest. Maybe then have a court case to argue for one when Corbyn got in too.
MegaSteve
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But neither of those teams currently hold sway in Westminster... So irrelevant...
Could you imagine the outcry from team public schoolboy if team corbyn (should it ever achieve being in charge) awarded a £1,000 bonus to all those on benefit...
Its very relevant. As you said in your first post on it, manifesto's are what some people consider when voting. Labour changed the leader, and then had another vote on him and they continually change their offering. LibDems potential leaders are both making promises and offerings. More people might vote for either if they have a different manifesto.
As for the Tories holding sway; that's just laughable. A minority govt holding sway... if they held sway the UK would have left the EU in March.
Think your rose red spectacles are blinding you a little. Your more interested in getting the Tories out, and are using the leadership election as an excuse to suggest a GE.
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MegaSteve
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Well, here's hoping the DUP, irrespective of the size of the bribe, find supporting Boris impossible...
Only reason the tories haven't removed us from the EU is they've found it difficult to put the will of the people ahead of the needs of their mates in big business...
drdel
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You do realise that Mr Corbyn's parents paid his School fees!
Doon frae Troon
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Putin trolling May about the next UK leader being elected by a small section of the rich elite.
MegaSteve
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Hardly Eton or Harrow...
And, probably contributory to why he struggles with being in tune with Labour's natural voters... As Ms Clinton found out to her cost it's not just the party faithful that carry you over the line...
Oh that's ok then as they're minor schools. Amazing how often the goal posts move when its suits someone's argument. He's a hypocrite. Argues for states schools, after benefiting (badly) from private prep and a grammar... at least his minor education left him thick as pig's............... which he has used to major effect for Labour - remind me of his intervention in the recent reinstatement of Williamson, which was overturned yesterday. He's an antisemite through and through.
If you're arguing for a GE after every change to a party leader for a GE due to a change in the manifesto, I'd be tempted to support your argument, but didn't see anything in relation to Corbyn's two leadership votes, and the many changes in manifesto, and the upcoming Libdem leadership vote.
You're arguing for it because it suits your political persuasion.
MegaSteve
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Not quite sure why you believe I am a Corbynite... Yes, my political view is left leaning but I haven't voted Labour in a GE for many years... A bit pointless, in my view, whilst living in a tory stronghold...
Not asking for or expecting a GE for leadership changes... But a GE for when there is a change of leader to government, especially with the proposed/promised changes to manifesto mid term, should be on offer...
SocketRocket
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Isnt declaring a party is a remain party and anti Brexit after promising to respect the referendum outcome in their manifesto wrong.
Old Skier
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Why do people go on about manifesto promises, rarely kept, and forgotten about by the general public until the media dig them up at the next election.
Hacker Khan
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Because in a lot of cases that's all we have to judge people and parties on when making a decision?
Old Skier
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Most make it on perceived decisions on what the others might do if they got in IMHO
MegaSteve
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But this is not about Labour... It's about the arrogance of current government that believe it's OK to make promises and only allow the chosen few to vote on them... Something they've learnt from the buffoons in Brussels no doubt...
Which promise do you feel Boris most likely to honour... The one to his mates to cut their tax rate or the one to his constituents to lie down in front of the bulldozers...
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Hacker Khan
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It is possible to try and champion state schools and the principle of them despite going to a grammar and private school.
Hacker Khan
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Which may partly explain why we are in such a state. All we end up with is the politics of the perceived fear of the other party. It's hardly aspirational.
Old Skier
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The Labour argument, do as I say, not as I do.
Dellboy
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Having been to one hustings and watched 2 others live, take it from me , of what I have seen/ talked about and heard, Boris is heading for No.10, yes Hunt does stand a chance, seeing as he’s the only other standing, but I can’t see it.
I believe he can reunite the party ( Boris) yes you will still have a few dinosaurs not willing to listen or do right for the party or the UK, but thankfully I can’t see the party voting for a May Clone which would banish them from power and forcing them to form a coalition with the Brexit patty.
Labour will not stand a chance at a general election with Steptoe in charge and with the SNP on the slide, there is a feeling of hope once again in the party with Bojo in charge.
I believe he can reunite the party ( Boris) yes you will still have a few dinosaurs not willing to listen or do right for the party or the UK, but thankfully I can’t see the party voting for a May Clone which would banish them from power and forcing them to form a coalition with the Brexit patty.
Labour will not stand a chance at a general election with Steptoe in charge and with the SNP on the slide, there is a feeling of hope once again in the party with Bojo in charge.
