SocketRocket
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Do you understand what 'Racist' actually means? Maybe you should look it up then measure his comments against the meaning.
The next PM.
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He's a racist. Have a look at the definition of cultural racism. There is also a term called "othering," which is used to describe a particular culture's attributes as inferior. Clumsy on my part with the definitions but basically his letter box comments are racist.
ColchesterFC
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Several years ago I was in Sharjah, near Dubai, for work and posted a Facebook update that said...."Just seen someone in a red burka. That reminds me, I must send my postcards". I hadn't actually seen a anyone in a red burka but was using the image of burka (which I had seen frequently in other colours) as the set up for a joke comparing it to the look of a UK postbox. I don't believe that my comment was racist, simply an observation in the same way that if I'd seen a member of a motorcycle gang dressed in leather and made a joke about S&M.
Old Skier
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Worlds gone mad and there are those that have to show their PC-ness in the fear of they themselves being branded. People have forgotten how to laugh at themselves.
MegaSteve
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I'll be assuming you agree then that his utterances are designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator of the party faithful....
And, I am quite comfortable with my own opinion on what constitutes a racist... Maybe you should broaden you own readings for some enlightenment...
SocketRocket
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I know the meaning and its not what has been quoted here. The racist card gets drawn too easily these days and often completely out of true context, its a cheap way of slighting someone.
SocketRocket
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If someone suggested a Bishop's mitre made him look like a fish then there would be no suggestion of racism, what about a Nun looking like a penguin.
SocketRocket
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Surely racism suggests a race (not relegion) is inferior not their mode of dress. I think a burka is a symbol of femail repression, does that make me a racist?
Making a racist comment and being a racist is 2 different things. Also, what's deemed racist in one country is accepted in another - its a minefield. But here's a thought; there's accepted language to describe fat/thin/tall/small people. Then there's the physical disabilities that can be described sympathetically or otherwise. The same applies to how people dress. It look like, on face value, might be okay but it looks like, in a derogatory way isn't okay. Even as a joke, both sides have to be able to laugh about it. His comment compared those that wore a burka as bank robbers, but equally he said he hoped that the UK wouldn't follow Denmark's lead and ban the burka.
At the end of the day the Met Police deemed he didn't reach the threshold for racism. Crass and insensitive absolutely. And the fact that it referred to a particular ethnicity/religion, racist in my eyes.
But if a particular race wears a type of dress... semantics I know but I'd see it as racism. The burka as a symbol of female repression; some say it is and some say it isn't. How many westerners think it is and how many burka wearers think it is? I'm not sure that's a defining comment, and I'm inclined to think there's a superior attitude displayed by westerners who use the cop out of suppression to say its not right. No doubt there are some burka wears who feel suppressed but is it the wearing of the burka or the whole 2nd class citizen that makes them feel repressed?
SocketRocket
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Its OK if they have a choice free from intimidation from their own race/religion.
MegaSteve
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I'd be hoping anyone seeking to lead/represent a multi-cultural nation in all the high places around the globe is able to set their moral compass a whole lot higher than Boris appears able to do so...
SocketRocket
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Multi-culturalism has been a complete failure and needs a determined effort to change it to an integrated culture.
Kellfire
Blackballed
If only the proud indigenous whitey had accepted others into our great empire, eh?
MegaSteve
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And Boris, with his utterances, is helping that exactly how?
Crazyface
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I saw an American comedy TV show that had something that was showing a commentator say what could be interpreted as be racist and the main character was then shown as calling for his "Racist Card" which was brought to him by his supposed bulter and in a a velvet lined box. I thought this was quite amusing, and thought it was poking a bit of fun at those who use this "Racist" call just a little too much. I must admit it is getting a little wearing to hear it rolled out sooooooooo much.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Disappointed that our future leader and PM is eschewing the opportunity planned for tomorrow to prove that he is NOT a coward and avoiding party member and public scrutiny - BJ needs to prove to JH and the non-believers - the doubters - that they are quite wrong to suggest such a thing.
Thought JH did reasonably well this morning on LBC in the face of a fairly hostile grilling by Nick Ferrari - mind you we don't know if Ferrari would put BJ under the same hostile scrutiny because - so far - BJ has declined to be interviewed by both Ferrari and Iain Dale - both of whom have interviewed all PM candidates over the last few weeks. All except BJ. Come on BJ - what's up? Your silence is giving me the HeeBee BeeJays...Ferrari, Dale and Hunt are friends!
Disappointed that our future leader and PM is eschewing the opportunity planned for tomorrow to prove that he is NOT a coward and avoiding party member and public scrutiny - BJ needs to prove to JH and the non-believers - the doubters - that they are quite wrong to suggest such a thing.
Thought JH did reasonably well this morning on LBC in the face of a fairly hostile grilling by Nick Ferrari - mind you we don't know if Ferrari would put BJ under the same hostile scrutiny because - so far - BJ has declined to be interviewed by both Ferrari and Iain Dale - both of whom have interviewed all PM candidates over the last few weeks. All except BJ. Come on BJ - what's up? Your silence is giving me the HeeBee BeeJays...Ferrari, Dale and Hunt are friends!
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Foxholer
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Maybe morally, but not politically! Btw...'possible/likely' future leader and PM....!
Again, probably a good decision by Boris!
In extended 1-to-1 interviews, Boris's 'bumbling buffoon' style comes across, at least to me, as inept. Whereas his 'off-the-cuff' replies to 'snippet-style' questions don't seem to - as much. So avoiding 'serious' interviews is probably a good tactic curently. He'll have to change his style somewhat IF he wins!
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Hunt doing the Jim Murphy thing of being photographed with a fish supper and drinking a can of Irn Bru to show how 'Scottish' he is.
Both end up looking like total planks as they forgot the CU Jimmy hat.
Both end up looking like total planks as they forgot the CU Jimmy hat.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Err what?
