The Masters 2018

Beezerk said:
Apparently the caddy moved them to one side by around 10ft after the 5th went in the water which gave Sergio a better angle. You could say poor caddying or stupidity on all parts.
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Can you do that? Surely you must drop the ball as near to where the original was played from, or a point on a straight line from where the ball crossed the hazard and the hole.
 
Capella said:
Actually, I think Sergio stayed unbelievably calm. I mean, we are talking about the guy who (in)famously threw his shoe into the audience at other occasions. Tincup moment or not, he finished the hole without losing his temper, holed the non-trivial putt and moved on to the next hole to make birdie. That takes a lot of nerve.
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Makes it easier with a green jacket hanging up in your locker. had he come 2nd last year we may have witnessed the whole golf bag going into the drink.
 
CliveW said:
Can you do that? Surely you must drop the ball as near to where the original was played from, or a point on a straight line from where the ball crossed the hazard and the hole.
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I assume this is how they managed to change the angle
 
Okay, The Masters is a law unto itself, but, did they really need to have the apron of the green cut so finely and the slope below seemed to be cut to within an inch of it's life. The game is hard enough over that course without having some tricked up areas like that to contend with.

Sad to see Sergio fall during the first round, but, this was almost as silly as US Open greens that need watering during play to allow the players a chance at putting. Give the guys a stiff but fair test. It makes for far better entertainment.
 
DCB said:
Okay, The Masters is a law unto itself, but, did they really need to have the apron of the green cut so finely and the slope below seemed to be cut to within an inch of it's life. The game is hard enough over that course without having some tricked up areas like that to contend with.

Sad to see Sergio fall during the first round, but, this was almost as silly as US Open greens that need watering during play to allow the players a chance at putting. Give the guys a stiff but fair test. It makes for far better entertainment.
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Isn't that the thing about Augusta though? That virtually every shot is only a fraction from being either brilliant or awful. Afterall, the 15th is normally, and I think I read was yesterday, the easiest scoring hole on the course.
 
Can't wait to watch Spieth and Rory this afternoon .......

Oh wait

ridiculous that they still don't allow full coverage until 8pm man!
 
CliveW said:
Can you do that? Surely you must drop the ball as near to where the original was played from, or a point on a straight line from where the ball crossed the hazard and the hole.
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Where the ball "LAST" crossed the hazard.
It's where the ball crosses the hazard on its way to the water that counts.
 
DCB said:
Okay, The Masters is a law unto itself, but, did they really need to have the apron of the green cut so finely and the slope below seemed to be cut to within an inch of it's life. The game is hard enough over that course without having some tricked up areas like that to contend with.

Sad to see Sergio fall during the first round, but, this was almost as silly as US Open greens that need watering during play to allow the players a chance at putting. Give the guys a stiff but fair test. It makes for far better entertainment.
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I know what you mean, but everyone else managed to get on the green in a reasonable amount of shots so it wasn't exactly unplayable. He just got unlucky and then made some very poor decisions to compound it.
 
CliveW said:
Can you do that? Surely you must drop the ball as near to where the original was played from, or a point on a straight line from where the ball crossed the hazard and the hole.
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Yeah, I think the first few times he just retook the shot from where it was. Then they switched to taking a drop in line with flag. (I'm just guessing from watching the video.)
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I watched Sergio live last night, Stuart Broad when Yuvraj spanked 6 sixes off him in a over and Ben Stokes getting hit for 4 sixes against the West Indies in the T20 World Final. I don't know which was more painful or more stupid. All 3 repeated their error each time. Broad and Stokes each bowled the same delivery, Garcia each hit the same shot. It was like playing rock, paper, scissors and going scissors every time when the other person keeps going rock. Do something different, anything.

Did his caddy say anything? Surely he should intervene by the 3rd time.
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That was absolutely hilarious and awesome at the same time.
 
Imurg said:
CliveW said:
Beezerk said:
Apparently the caddy moved them to one side by around 10ft after the 5th went in the water which gave Sergio a better angle. You could say poor caddying or stupidity on all parts.
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Can you do that? Surely you must drop the ball as near to where the original was played from, or a point on a straight line from where the ball crossed the hazard and the hole.
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Where the ball "LAST" crossed the hazard.
It's where the ball "LAST" crosses the hazard on its way to the water that counts.
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Added your 'edit' to your correction/clarification! :rolleyes:

Remember that, for those shots that spun back after hitting the green (all 5 of them?), the ball has crossed the margin 3 times and, as Imurg correctly pointed out, it's the LAST one (the greenside one - before it enters the water) that determines the reference point for the drop! As there was considerable right to left movement, after the ball hit the green, by the couple I saw in replays, it's quite likely that a subsequent attempt (played from a considerable distance away), under 26-1b would be from a position some distance away from the previous one!

Of course, the option to 'replay from where last played' (26-1a/27-1) is also available - as always.

It's likely that, certainly given the number of divots after using 5 26-1a options, that changing to 26-1b made a lot of sense! Some of the 'reference points' looked to be quite a way to the right of the hole, so, unless he got a lot closer (possibly should have in hindsight) he could well have had to play from a poor position - like in the trees right!
 
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Is it just me or was there some cynical thinking in Spieths third shot to the 18th? If you believe the commentators he would have deliberately hit it in that direction to give him the best chance of an up and down, which he achieved. However, my thought at the time was he hit it knowingly towards the crowd in a reasonable certainty that its path would be stopped by a spectator or the like. I also didn't hear a shout of "Fore" but I may have just missed that. (Mind you I've not heard many at all this year).
Don't get me wrong, his golf on the back 9 was fantastic. I just have my doubts about his thinking behind his third on the 18th.
 
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