The Footie Thread

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Well Neal was a full back

And l would have VVD ahead of all of them bar Hansen

Well then that proves my point recency bias. Absolutely no right or wrong in that opinion as it’s personal preference.

But for the record as a non Liverpool fan you’re wrong

 

[Arthur Wedge]

He may be a legend to those that follow Liverpool but, for me, a true legend is recognised as such by supporters of other clubs. I could add Dalgliesh, Keegan, Rush and no doubt a few others around that time all of which are recognised outside the bounds of Anfield. Latterly, Fowler, Owen, Gerrard & Carragher.

Robertson in that group? No way, not even close.

Would never have someone like Owen as a legend of the club


But as there is no factual boundary either way it’s always down to opinions

 

[SteveW86]

How many of the guys that played under Roy Hodgson are legends?

 

[irip]

Some of them very good players and together a great side/squad.
Legends of the club I would disagree with.
I don’t think any would make the best Liverpool 11 for me.
And I understand when people say they possibly underachieved

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Well then that proves my point recency bias. Absolutely no right or wrong in that opinion as it’s personal preference.

But for the record as a non Liverpool fan you’re wrong

For the record there is no right or wrong


As an example Gerrard and Carragher both put him in their top ten players to have played the club

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2022/09/liverpool-fc-top-10-centre-backs-from-hughes-to-van-dijk/

 

[Hobbit]

Would never have someone like Owen as a legend of the club


But as there is no factual boundary either way it’s always down to opinions

Because of how he left the club? Best include Arnold then.

Owen’s scoring rate is up there with the best, including at international level.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

How many of the guys that played under Roy Hodgson are legends?

Well Gerrard an Carragher did

 

[irip]

How many of the guys that played under Roy Hodgson are legends?

More than this squad I would say.
Steven Gerrard being the only one, although a few others that might have a shout.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Because of how he left the club? Best include Arnold then.

Owen’s scoring rate is up there with the best, including at international level.

I don’t include Trent as a legend , a number of right backs better than him

Owen was always about England first , that’s his choice , great player and phenomenal goal sc

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Some of them very good players and together a great side/squad.
Legends of the club I would disagree with.
I don’t think any would make the best Liverpool 11 for me.
And I understand when people say they possibly underachieved

So no Salah in the clubs best 11 ?

 

[irip]

I don’t include Trent as a legend , a number of right backs better than him

Owen was always about England first , that’s his choice , great player and phenomenal goal sc

Trent and Robertson I would rate the same for me.

I’m just waiting for Billy to turn up and tell us Harry Maguire is a United legend.
Any ideas on who should take his place as a mod when he does?

 

[irip]

So no Salah in the clubs best 11 ?

Close but not for me.
If I was picking a best ever Liverpool 11 he would be in the conversation but just falls short.
It is about opinions though and happy to accept some would have him.
Also would depend on what the criteria was if any

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Trent and Robertson I would rate the same for me.

I’m just waiting for Billy to turn up and tell us Harry Maguire is a United legend.
Any ideas on who should take his place as a mod when he does?

Robertson whilst not as technically gifted on the ball as Trent , he was quicker , better pressing , better tackling , better positioning


Trent’s ability on the ball and passing range is outstanding but overall package as a full back Robbo for me

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Close but not for me.
If I was picking a best ever Liverpool 11 he would be in the conversation but just falls short.
It is about opinions though and happy to accept some would have him.
Also would depend on what the criteria was if any

For me it’s

Allison/Clem - just can’t split them

Neal
Hansen
Vvd
Kennedy

Barnes
Souness
Gerrard
Salah

Rush
Kenny

 

[Lord Tyrion]

He may be a legend to those that follow Liverpool but, for me, a true legend is recognised as such by supporters of other clubs. I could add Dalgliesh, Keegan, Rush and no doubt a few others around that time all of which are recognised outside the bounds of Anfield. Latterly, Fowler, Owen, Gerrard & Carragher.

Robertson in that group? No way, not even close.

Of those, surely only Gerrard should be in that category? Fowler and Carragher are loved as they are local lads made good but they would not make the best 3rd XI at Liverpool and for that alone, no legend. Owen, nope. No league titles during that time, that's a massive gap for that generation.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

For the record there is no right or wrong


As an example Gerrard and Carragher both put him in their top ten players to have played the club

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2022/09/liverpool-fc-top-10-centre-backs-from-hughes-to-van-dijk/

Someone clearly missed the humour!! And the fact I clearly said there is no right or wrong!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

For me it’s

Allison/Clem - just can’t split them

Neal
Hansen
Vvd
Kennedy

Barnes
Souness
Gerrard
Salah

Rush
Kenny

Only one Shankly player in that team . None of that era ranking? There are a lot of graves turning in Liverpool right now.

 

[irip]

Only one Shankly player in that team . None of that era ranking? There are a lot of graves turning in Liverpool right now.

You could put another 11 out of different players that would be equally as good.
It’s all about personal choice and opinion.
Roberson still wouldn’t make that side either though

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Only one Shankly player in that team . None of that era ranking? There are a lot of graves turning in Liverpool right now.

There will be countless players that can be swapped in from a number of teams and not look out of place

 

[Hobbit]

For me it’s

Allison/Clem - just can’t split them

Neal
Hansen
Vvd
Kennedy

Barnes
Souness
Gerrard
Salah

Rush
Kenny

No room for Hughes?

I had the pleasure of watching the 70’s team a number of times. Clem was immense, and would be my first choice every time. The Hansen/VVD pairing is spot on. But I’d try and have 3 across the back with Hughes + 2 wing backs. Could Neal & Kennedy play as wing backs? We’ll never know.

But with wing backs it becomes a 3 in midfield. Could Souness play alongside Gerrard? The same style with Henderson & Gerrard worked? And who would be the 3rd? Would picking Salah in that formation cramp Dalgliesh? I’d rather see Mane in for Mo. Or go with Barnes, but would Barnes fit in with wing backs?

Rush & Dalgliesh definitely, even at the expense of Keegan.