The Footie Thread

[Pin-seeker]

I don’t like what Isak is doing it’s childish to get your own way!

Said to my mate “ do we really want that attitude in a player at Liverpool.”

I’m not so sure it’s very unprofessional imo.

It goes on all the time.
Just shows that it’s the players that have the power.
It’s not like Newcastle can afford to just say no & make him stay.
Like I said earlier,it’s the hypocrisy of football fans that were whinging a few months back when one of their players wanted to leave & they hammered him,even tho he did it in a professional manner.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Isak will need to be very clear to Newcastle as well

All this “exploring options” nonsense just add more confusion

If he wants to leave then put in a transfer request and tell Newcastle to negotiate

Not a fan of what’s happening right now

Or Newcastle just want to get two strikers in and then let him go

He won't put in a transfer request as then he would lose his loyalty bonus. No player does that any more.

Loyalty bonus

 

[Lord Tyrion]

So Liverpool approached the player,the club or his agent?

The club would be the last of those three. Take your pick of which of the other two came first.

 

[clubchamp98]

It goes on all the time.
Just shows that it’s the players that have the power.
It’s not like Newcastle can afford to just say no & make him stay.
Like I said earlier,it’s the hypocrisy of football fans that were whinging a few months back when one of their players wanted to leave & they hammered him,even tho he did it in a professional manner.

Not so sure letting your contract run down and refusing to sign another so the club can get a fee is all that professional either.

But if anyone thinks Newcastle hasn’t done what other clubs are doing their wrong.

Footy transfers are a mess atm and mostly run by agents posting rumours on social media.
Contracts aren’t worth a carrot once a player wants to leave.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Not so sure letting your contract run down and refusing to sign another so the club can get a fee is all that professional either.

But if anyone thinks Newcastle hasn’t done what other clubs are doing their wrong.

Footy transfers are a mess atm and mostly run by agents posting rumours on social media.
Contracts aren’t worth a carrot once a player wants to leave.

It’s just someone trying mental gymnastics to compare to vastly different situations to take a dig at Liverpool fans

Trent run his contract down and for a player that is worth £60mil plus we got a token £10mil

If Isak goes it will break records and Newcastle will earn a lot of money for him

It’s the same as the Coutinho situation

 

[Pin-seeker]

Not so sure letting your contract run down and refusing to sign another so the club can get a fee is all that professional either.

But if anyone thinks Newcastle hasn’t done what other clubs are doing their wrong.

Footy transfers are a mess atm and mostly run by agents posting rumours on social media.
Contracts aren’t worth a carrot once a player wants to leave.

The club also let his contract run down.
It’s not down to the player to make sure the club get a fee for him.

 

[nickjdavis]

Not so sure letting your contract run down and refusing to sign another so the club can get a fee is all that professional either.

But if anyone thinks Newcastle hasn’t done what other clubs are doing their wrong.

Footy transfers are a mess atm and mostly run by agents posting rumours on social media.
Contracts aren’t worth a carrot once a player wants to leave.

Not sure anyone has said this...certainly not myself.

As for your last two lines...there are not two greater truths out there on this planet.

 

[Pin-seeker]

It’s just someone trying mental gymnastics to compare to vastly different situations to take a dig at Liverpool fans

Trent run his contract down and for a player that is worth £60mil plus we got a token £10mil

If Isak goes it will break records and Newcastle will earn a lot of money for him

It’s the same as the Coutinho situation

This is the football thread & we’re just having a debate

 

[Pin-seeker]

It’s just someone trying mental gymnastics to compare to vastly different situations to take a dig at Liverpool fans

Trent run his contract down and for a player that is worth £60mil plus we got a token £10mil

If Isak goes it will break records and Newcastle will earn a lot of money for him

It’s the same as the Coutinho situation

And you were singing a different tune back then

 

[clubchamp98]

The club also let his contract run down.
It’s not down to the player to make sure the club get a fee for him.

The club can offer a contract and I think Liverpool did !
But they can’t make a player sign it.

If Newcastle don’t want to sell Isak then hold him to the contract he signed.

But money will have the last say as usual.

 

[nickjdavis]

It’s just someone trying mental gymnastics to compare to vastly different situations to take a dig at Liverpool fans

Trent run his contract down and for a player that is worth £60mil plus we got a token £10mil

If Isak goes it will break records and Newcastle will earn a lot of money for him

It’s the same as the Coutinho situation

So will Real Sociedad....they get 10% of the difference between whatever the fee ends up being and €70m....no wonder they are happy to host him training at their facilities.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

He won't put in a transfer request as then he would lose his loyalty bonus. No player does that any more.

Loyalty bonus

Will never understand any sort of loyalty bonus that gets paid on a transfer

 

[Arthur Wedge]

So will Real Sociedad....they get 10% of the difference between whatever the fee ends up being and €70m....no wonder they are happy to host him training at their facilities.

I’m not surprised there was add ons for Sociedad - seems par for course on any transfer for a younger player

 

[Don Barzini]

That way the competition isn’t which club has the richest owner

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Will never understand any sort of loyalty bonus that gets paid on a transfer

The other great mystery is why the buying club has to pay the players agent fee . There is no sense in that.

 

[Pin-seeker]

The club can offer a contract and I think Liverpool did !
But they can’t make a player sign it.

If Newcastle don’t want to sell Isak then hold him to the contract he signed.

But money will have the last say as usual.

So if a player gets to say 12-18month on their contract & won’t sign a new one then you sell them.

Are you seriously suggesting that if a player wants to leave a club,they should sign a new contract?
Sorry but how does that make sense??

If Newcastle were to make Isak see out his contract & he downed tools they’d be screwed financially.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I’m not sure what’s funny

 

[Arthur Wedge]

The other great mystery is why the buying club has to pay the players agent fee . There is no sense in that.

Well agent fees are through the roof , believe the summer we got McAllister cost us £30mil or so - mental

They have too much power

They are the ones out there causing more issues than anyone

 

[Don Barzini]

I’m not sure what’s funny

The idea that you think the current way things are isn’t about which club has the richest owner(s).

 

[Arthur Wedge]

The idea that you think the current way things are isn’t about which club has the richest owner(s).

It’s not about which club has the richest owners

Newcastle have the richest owners do they not ?

If a club is just allowed to spend whatever an owner is willing to spend which clubs does that favour