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[Billysboots]

I know this has been done to death, but I just read this comment from a Liverpool fan on BBC Sport regarding TAA’s decision to leave. The second sentence almost made me choke on my ice cold Aspall cider.



The hypocrisy is breathtaking. Doesn’t respect and class cut both ways?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I know this has been done to death, but I just read this comment from a Liverpool fan on BBC Sport regarding TAA’s decision to leave. The second sentence almost made me choke on my ice cold Aspall cider.

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The hypocrisy is breathtaking. Doesn’t respect and class cut both ways?

Depends on if he booed him , if not then it’s a fair opinion

Fans boo players , it’s one way for them to express their opinion , I personally don’t agree with it

If Trent’s idea was always to leave for a free at the end of his contract then he should have told them that last year so the club then have a choice to sell him for some money , but it seems he didn’t tell them no until March - he is a local lad and for some it will grate even more so when you have players like VVD and Salah pretty putting their heart on the table stating they only want to stay

So has he played the club to ensure he leaves on a free and that way he gets the big pay off - I suspect there is something in there and it’s standard of Madrid to do it

The fans have been very quiet and patient about him even when it was all up in arms , he was supported through everything even when he wasn’t playing well

So whilst I don’t agree with the booing I can understand the rawness of the reaction to him , any legacy he would have had with the club will prob be ruined now in the same way it was with Owen but lll be very thankful for what he did helping the club win multiple trophies

Hopefully those that wanted to boo have it out of their system now

Also think it was an error by Slot to bring him on

 

[Billysboots]

Depends on if he booed him , if not then it’s a fair opinion

Not sure if he booed himself, but he said he condoned those who did.

If Real visit Anfield in the next year or so in the Champion’s League, it will be interesting to see what the reaction is then.

I suspect it will be much the same.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Not sure if he booed himself, but he said he condoned those who did.

If Real visit Anfield in the next year or so in the Champion’s League, it will be interesting to see what the reaction is then.

I suspect it will be much the same.

Oh he will be in a Madrid shirt then so there is no doubt the reaction will be negative

Trent at times didn’t help himself as well

Salah and VVd were both very vocal at wanting to stay , Trent said stuff about wanting to captain the club and be there for life , then went quiet and made gestures to the fans so the discontent was bubbling away under

Its a shame because i don’t think you should boo someone wearing your shirt - and if he had scored the same people would have prob jumped up screaming

But I can understand why it happened

 

[RichA]

Not sure if he booed himself, but he said he condoned those who did.

If Real visit Anfield in the next year or so in the Champion’s League, it will be interesting to see what the reaction is then.

I suspect it will be much the same.

He'll be on the bench so it won't matter too much.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Oh he will be in a Madrid shirt then so there is no doubt the reaction will be negative

Trent at times didn’t help himself as well

Salah and VVd were both very vocal at wanting to stay , Trent said stuff about wanting to captain the club and be there for life , then went quiet and made gestures to the fans so the discontent was bubbling away under

Its a shame because i don’t think you should boo someone wearing your shirt - and if he had scored the same people would have prob jumped up screaming

But I can understand why it happened

seem to remember Salah saying it was his last season in a interview after a game.
Was probably told to do it by his agent tho.
Put pressure on the club to give him what he wanted.

 

[Reemul]

If Trent’s idea was always to leave for a free at the end of his contract then he should have told them that last year so the club then have a choice to sell him for some money , but it seems he didn’t tell them no until March - he is a local lad and for some it will grate even more so when you have players like VVD and Salah pretty putting their heart on the table stating they only want to stay

So has he played the club to ensure he leaves on a free and that way he gets the big pay off - I suspect there is something in there and it’s standard of Madrid to do it

This is absolute rubbish. He has a contract, it's got 18 months to go, are you signing the new one yes or no, if no Liverpool try to sell him if yes then sign it. There is nothing else. If he says I don't know, i am unsure, I don't know then Liverpool need to make a decision. TAA does not need to make any decision and any decision he makes is nothing to do with Liverpool, he's an employee. trying to blame him by saying he conned the club by not signing a new contract is pathetic really. He has either signed one or not, it's not a secret or hidden or unknown. The only people to blame for TAA leaving on a free are Liverpool and your fans can boo and hiss and post all the rubbish you like it's not changing the fact Liverpool screwed up. It almost feels like woe is us...

 

[Arthur Wedge]

This is absolute rubbish. He has a contract, it's got 18 months to go, are you signing the new one yes or no, if no Liverpool try to sell him if yes then sign it. There is nothing else. If he says I don't know, i am unsure, I don't know then Liverpool need to make a decision. TAA does not need to make any decision and any decision he makes is nothing to do with Liverpool, he's an employee. trying to blame him by saying he conned the club by not signing a new contract is pathetic really. He has either signed one or not, it's not a secret or hidden or unknown. The only people to blame for TAA leaving on a free are Liverpool and your fans can boo and hiss and post all the rubbish you like it's not changing the fact Liverpool screwed up. It almost feels like woe is us...

It’s not rubbish at all

Of course Trent has a decision to make - he was offered a new contract with the club , it was put on the table , but the agent kept up with “negotiations”

And yes players have run down their contract to be able to go on a free

If he knows that Madrid will pick him up for free in 12 months why waste a transfer fee - Trent just says no to leaving because he knows he gets a bigger pay day

Madrid also tried it with Davies but he in the last 6 months signed to stay with Munich , as opposed to Alaba who left on a free - you are clearly not that naive to not think Madrid aren’t tapping up players to do this - even Wenger stated up

Either way the world will still go round and we will still move on to next season with someone else there

 

[Swango1980]

It’s not rubbish at all

Of course Trent has a decision to make - he was offered a new contract with the club , it was put on the table , but the agent kept up with “negotiations”

And yes players have run down their contract to be able to go on a free

If he knows that Madrid will pick him up for free in 12 months why waste a transfer fee - Trent just says no to leaving because he knows he gets a bigger pay day

Madrid also tried it with Davies but he in the last 6 months signed to stay with Munich , as opposed to Alaba who left on a free - you are clearly not that naive to not think Madrid aren’t tapping up players to do this - even Wenger stated up

Either way the world will still go round and we will still move on to next season with someone else there

So, Liverpool were conned? Every man and his dog knew there was a real chance of a valuable player leaving for free as his contract was about to run out.

But, the brains that run Liverpool FC didn't see that coming? Or they run their model on hope, and hoped he'd stay?

If a player doesn't sign a new contract, they either want more money on the table, or they think another club will come along and give them a better opportunity. But they won't flat out confirm they are leaving, because if another club doesn't ultimately come along, you don't want to burn your bridges at your existing club. Signing a new contract at Liverpool was probably still always an option for TAA, it's just that Real were his preferred option

 

[Arthur Wedge]

So, Liverpool were conned? Every man and his dog knew there was a real chance of a valuable player leaving for free as his contract was about to run out.

But, the brains that run Liverpool FC didn't see that coming? Or they run their model on hope, and hoped he'd stay?

If a player doesn't sign a new contract, they either want more money on the table, or they think another club will come along and give them a better opportunity. But they won't flat out confirm they are leaving, because if another club doesn't ultimately come along, you don't want to burn your bridges at your existing club. Signing a new contract at Liverpool was probably still always an option for TAA, it's just that Real were his preferred option

conned

I’m very sure that the club knew there was a chance he would leave for free - that the risk the club took when they turned down the bid in Jan

Plenty players leave clubs for free

Trent imo made his choice a long time ago

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Is Trent leaving? Missed that , I mean nobody has mentioned it.

 

[Swango1980]

conned

I’m very sure that the club knew there was a chance he would leave for free - that the risk the club took when they turned down the bid in Jan

Plenty players leave clubs for free

Trent imo made his choice a long time ago

I was mainly responding to your comment a bit earlier, where you said TAA should have told Liverpool last year.

Why?

Even if he had his heart on going to Madrid last year, things change. He could lose form, get injured, Real may end up going for other targets, etc. It would be stupid for him to tell Liverpool he is going to go.

As he hadn't signed a contract with a year to go, then ultimately his answer at that time was "no". He doesn't need to say he is leaving, simply not signing a contract extension means the answer is currently no. So, Liverpool were free to make the choice to try and sell him. They decided not to.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I was mainly responding to your comment a bit earlier, where you said TAA should have told Liverpool last year.

Why?

Even if he had his heart on going to Madrid last year, things change. He could lose form, get injured, Real may end up going for other targets, etc. It would be stupid for him to tell Liverpool he is going to go.

As he hadn't signed a contract with a year to go, then ultimately his answer at that time was "no". He doesn't need to say he is leaving, simply not signing a contract extension means the answer is currently no. So, Liverpool were free to make the choice to try and sell him. They decided not to.

Yes if it was always his intention to go to Madrid , turn down the contract offer and see if the club can negotiate a deal with Madrid for the transfer and he can go straight away ( last summer )

 

[Swango1980]

Yes if it was always his intention to go to Madrid , turn down the contract offer and see if the club can negotiate a deal with Madrid for the transfer and he can go straight away ( last summer )

Yes, if he wanted to go to Madrid last summer AND Madrid were going to bid for him, then I am sure that is exactly what would have happened.

But, presumably this outcome was never an option, as no negotiations ever happened between Liverpool and Madrid.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Yes, if he wanted to go to Madrid last summer AND Madrid were going to bid for him, then I am sure that is exactly what would have happened.

But, presumably this outcome was never an option, as no negotiations ever happened between Liverpool and Madrid.

Ok to help to see if the penny drops

Madrid want Trent , Trent wants to go to Madrid

What is the best outcome for Madrid and Trent - paying £50mil for him last summer and Trent getting a nominal signing on fee

Or Madrid and player waiting the year and getting him for 0 transfer fee and Trent and his agent getting a big juicy signing on fee

The agent will be doing his very best to get the best deal

Trent imo was always looking to leave , no intention of sighing a new contract

He could have like other players have done signed a new contract with a release clause but again less money for him and his agent

Two more games and we can all move on

 

[Aztecs27]

In other news Taiwo Awoniyi has now been placed into a medically induced Coma with an injury which is fatal in 30% of cases.

All because of a stupid rule.

EDIT: this is how clear it was by the way.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1922236003219042720

 

[Arthur Wedge]

In other news Taiwo Awoniyi has now been placed into a medically induced Coma.

All because of a stupid rule.

Was it Awoniyi the person offside ? If the flag had gone up would the collusion with the post still happened or was the offside earlier in the move ? Trying to watch it again and can’t find it

Fingers crossed he is ok after the surgery

 

[Don Barzini]

In other news Taiwo Awoniyi has now been placed into a medically induced Coma with an injury which is fatal in 30% of cases.

All because of a stupid rule.

EDIT: this is how clear it was by the way.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1922236003219042720

This is awful. Get well soon Big T.

I mean, looking at those pictures - if you can’t see that was clearly offside you’re in the wrong job.

 

[Don Barzini]

Was it Awoniyi the person offside ? If the flag had gone up would the collusion with the post still happened or was the offside earlier in the move ? Trying to watch it again and can’t find it

Elanga was offside. T is on the edge of the centre circle in his own half in that picture.

 

[Aztecs27]

Was it Awoniyi the person offside ? If the flag had gone up would the collusion with the post still happened or was the offside earlier in the move ? Trying to watch it again and can’t find it

Fingers crossed he is ok after the surgery

No, it was elanga offside, Taiwo sprinted half the pitch to get on the end of it (he’s on the other edge of the centre circle in our half).

So would have been completely avoided.