Swango1980
Well-known member
I think this is Henderson's 8th game for Ajax. They have won once in all games he has played.
What an impact
What an impact
Swango1980
Well-known member
Looks like all English teams winning big tonight, except Brighton. Ironic really, as they are the ones that needed it
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Would like to hear Southgate explain the logic to his selection.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
good to see Anthony Taylor playing on until Leverkusen beat Qarabag lol
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Who else is there at this stage? Phillips came on tonight. Gave the ball away instantly
Crazyface
Tour Winner
Christ no. They couldnt sort clothes at a jumble saleSo the premier league which has 115 charges against City, docked Everton points, has Forest and a Few other clubs in its sights. Has still not sorted out a financial package for the football league teams coz it wants more money for the Prem league.
Premier League clubs fail to reach EFL funding deal
A meeting between Premier League clubs on Monday ends without an agreement over a 'New Deal' for EFL funding.www.bbc.co.uk
Like i have said for a long time. The prem league, UEFA, FIFA are different Pigs with there noses in the trough and they tell us they have footballs interests as a priority. Yeah right oh.
I can see the government sorting this one out.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
3 seasons in a row into the quarters of Europe comp
What a goal above btw from kudus.
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Anyone,just give someone a chance.
The man goes to Saudi,now towing in the Dutch league. It’s not like he was even Messi in his prime
SteveW86
Head Pro
I imagine it would be along the lines of experience, never let him down etc.
Henderson shouldn’t be starting, but he is a good player to have around the squad. I don’t really understand the uproar with him being there.
Swingalot
Challenge Tour Pro
Rice.
We only need 1 holder with the attacking ability we have in midfield and attack.
If we really need another holder, then Gallagher can play that role as can James Ward Prowse.
Henderson is a joke. A bigger one is coming when Mount comes back for United and Gareth finds him a place on the plane.
Awful.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Just wait until Phillips goes back to city and gets picked lol
He's been utter rubbish for us
SteveW86
Head Pro
It does make me laugh with Phillips and how hypocritical Southgate is. Says he will always pick players in good form, yet Phillips was in the squad when benchwarming at City, now he’s gone to West Ham and not doing great GS drops him for poor form. More big club bias that GS said he wouldn’t do.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Exactly. Phillips has completely shocked me. I thought he was a good player , I thought him coming would provide excellent cover and comp for places. What with it being a world cup year and all he would want to make sure he went
He's been so bad and I just thought he would kick on or grind .. he just seems to be getting worse
I can only speak for myself, but it’s because this one selection typifies Southgate’s overwhelming reluctance to take even calculated risks.
There is a wealth of talent available to him, and yet time and again he takes the safe option.
That’s why England are still waiting for a first trophy in over fifty years, despite Southgate in particular having some absolutely gilt edged opportunities which he has squandered through his conservative approach.
pendodave
Tour Rookie
I'm with you. Its easy for people who don't make the effort to say "look at where you are".As a fervent Moyes outer I will just point out that it’s never been because of the results, they are in the main good. As a paying customer I just want some excitement. Big difference tonight to some of the dross we have endured.
Anyway it’s not the night to be whinging…. COYI
Anyway, the oppo tonight were pretty dreadful. Chatted to a few of the German fans after the game. I thought they were really let down by what was served up.
Sometimes it's easy to forget how wealth even mid table prem teams are, and how good the players are vs mid table euro leagues. They would be in the bottom 3 or 4 over here imho.
ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
For anyone supporting Southgate I'd ask a simple question, do you think we'd be achieving more or less with a manager such as Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti etc in charge? Personally I think we'd be better off with a more positive manager in charge. Someone that would make the most of the attacking talent we've got available to us rather than someone that is determined not to lose.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Think Moyes would do a great job.. he could do both at once. If he has nothing to lose he is your man .. ,
SteveW86
Head Pro
I agree Southgate approach is too conservative, we should be playing much better football than we have been.
The first 11 is better, or Atleast should be better without Henderson in it, we (could) have a team with huge potential that plays to the strengths of its attacking quality. But within that squad I can see value in Henderson being there, he could never play, as is often the case with some squad players, but I think his experience does add something in a tournament situation.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Erm because he is now dog
I hate that "good experience to have in the squad" line, such a typical English backwards way of thinking, he'll be picking Gary Lineker next becuae he scored a hat trick in 86
Where's the progression, the forward thinking from Southgate? Nowhere to be seen, such a waste of talent over the last half a dozen years.
Bdill93
Undisputed King of FOMO
Come on the villllaaaaaa! Massive win!!!
Praying Ollie isn’t out for long.
The European tour continues fuelled by hendos tears
Praying Ollie isn’t out for long.
The European tour continues fuelled by hendos tears
