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Liverpoolphil said:
Nope

Think the low point was when we were 16th , then knocked out by Northampton in the cup and having players like Poulsen and Konchesky in the team - he shouldn’t have been given the job in the first place - zero track record at a big club. The worst manager in our history
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When he left Fulham for Liverpool I thought he was an excellent appointment.

He was a very successful experienced manager, I think he deserved more time to clear the mess of Benitez and considering the club had bigger problems off the field. Harshly treated.

I was chuffed when he got the England job, he done very well under the circumstances.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Isn't that the fault of the board or the recruitment team rather than Hodgson? This is a genuine question not a dig as I've got no idea of the hierarchy at Liverpool. Wasn't Hodgson just playing those players that were available for him to pick? Did he have better options available to him?
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You won’t get a quick reply he will have to google it first.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Isn't that the fault of the board or the recruitment team rather than Hodgson? This is a genuine question not a dig as I've got no idea of the hierarchy at Liverpool. Wasn't Hodgson just playing those players that were available for him to pick? Did he have better options available to him?
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I may be wrong but didn’t Roy buy 1 of them, Konchesky if I remember?
 
ColchesterFC said:
Isn't that the fault of the board or the recruitment team rather than Hodgson? This is a genuine question not a dig as I've got no idea of the hierarchy at Liverpool. Wasn't Hodgson just playing those players that were available for him to pick? Did he have better options available to him?
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They were players that Hodgson wanted , we didn’t have much of a recruitment team at the time - Konchesky was a player he knew form his Fulham time , Poulsen a player from his time in Denmark - he brought them in.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Isn't that the fault of the board or the recruitment team rather than Hodgson? This is a genuine question not a dig as I've got no idea of the hierarchy at Liverpool. Wasn't Hodgson just playing those players that were available for him to pick? Did he have better options available to him?
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The club was virtually bankrupt at that time and had to go to the courts for permission to be sold. Hodgson got dross because that was all the club could afford. If I remember correctly, Dalgliesh was also up for the job but didn’t get it as some on the board thought he wasn’t good enough. Rumour had it at that time that Dalgliesh conspired with others to get Hodgson sacked, and he subsequently got the job.

Although the team under Dalgliesh went on to win either the league cup or FA cup, their league form was actually worse under him than under Hodgson, and he was sacked. Ironically, Hodgson then managed West Brom who went on to beat L’pool home and away…
 
Hobbit said:
The club was virtually bankrupt at that time and had to go to the courts for permission to be sold. Hodgson got dross because that was all the club could afford. If I remember correctly, Dalgliesh was also up for the job but didn’t get it as some on the board thought he wasn’t good enough. Rumour had it at that time that Dalgliesh conspired with others to get Hodgson sacked, and he subsequently got the job.

Although the team under Dalgliesh went on to win either the league cup or FA cup, their league form was actually worse under him than under Hodgson, and he was sacked. Ironically, Hodgson then managed West Brom who went on to beat L’pool home and away…
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Blimey - touch of poetic license there

Kenny wasn’t up for the job when Hodgson was given the job and certainly didn’t “conspire” with anyone to get Hodgson fired ? - Hodgson’s results did that all by himself - 4 defeats in 5 games does that ( 13th in the league when he went - at one stage we were 19th ) - Kenny then for the rest of the season got the team back up the table to 6th


The next season we won the league cup , got beat in the FA Cup final but were inconsistent in the league - floating around 6th to 8th all season so not sure how the league form was worse ?‍♂️
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Blimey - touch of poetic license there

Kenny wasn’t up for the job when Hodgson was given the job and certainly didn’t “conspire” with anyone to get Hodgson fired ? - Hodgson’s results did that all by himself - 4 defeats in 5 games does that ( 13th in the league when he went - at one stage we were 19th ) - Kenny then for the rest of the season got the team back up the table to 6th


The next season we won the league cup , got beat in the FA Cup final but were inconsistent in the league - floating around 6th to 8th all season so not sure how the league form was worse ?‍♂️
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Don’t shoot the messenger Phil. ‘Word on the street’ was there were behind the scenes conspiring by some board members and Dalgliesh. Was there, wasn’t there? We don’t know. At the point Dalgliesh was sacked L’pool were one position in the league worse than when Hodgson was sacked.

I think Hodgson was a little hard done by. He inherited a poor team that was lacking in confidence. It wasn’t a team he was going to turn round overnight, but it didn’t help that he wasn’t liked, especially as the fans knew their favourite son, King Kenny didn’t get the job.

All that said, I’m more interested in L’pool making top 4 this season than what happened x yrs ago.
 
Hobbit said:
Don’t shoot the messenger Phil. ‘Word on the street’ was there were behind the scenes conspiring by some board members and Dalgliesh. Was there, wasn’t there? We don’t know. At the point Dalgliesh was sacked L’pool were one position in the league worse than when Hodgson was sacked.

I think Hodgson was a little hard done by. He inherited a poor team that was lacking in confidence. It wasn’t a team he was going to turn round overnight, but it didn’t help that he wasn’t liked, especially as the fans knew their favourite son, King Kenny didn’t get the job.

All that said, I’m more interested in L’pool making top 4 this season than what happened x yrs ago.
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Kenny left at the end of the 2011 season when we finished 8th - We were 13th when Hodgson was sacked ?‍♂️

Hodgson brought in poor players , employed poor tactics and lost his job because the results weren’t good enough - the club was in the bottom three at one stage , knocked out of the Cup by a league two team

It wasn’t because of Kenny he was fired it was because of his results - worst manager we have had but he shouldn’t have got the job in the first place.’
 
HomecountiesJohn said:
Just heard Conte’s interview on MOTD2 and he’s correct. Time and financial investment is needed at Tottenham.
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He talks of creative players being injured, kulusevski apart we don’t have any ??
I’ve been saying for ages we need a quality creative centre midfield player to pull the strings. It stands out a mile. In addition his tactics are extremely negative and boring ??
He’s had investment and yes time should be given, but to someone else.
 
HomecountiesJohn said:
When he left Fulham for Liverpool I thought he was an excellent appointment.

He was a very successful experienced manager, I think he deserved more time to clear the mess of Benitez and considering the club had bigger problems off the field. Harshly treated.

I was chuffed when he got the England job, he done very well under the circumstances.
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It’s stretching a bit to say Hodgson was a very successful manager, he had a good record in Sweden but all the teams he managed ie Inter, Liverpool West Brom Fulham, Palace he won nothing.

Also as England manager he underperformed and we played some woeful football at times.
 
Rlburnside said:
It’s stretching a bit to say Hodgson was a very successful manager, he had a good record in Sweden but all the teams he managed ie Inter, Liverpool West Brom Fulham, Palace he won nothing.

Also as England manager he underperformed and we played some woeful football at times.
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He won a couple of trophies in Italy if my memory is correct.
 
Jensen said:
He talks of creative players being injured, kulusevski apart we don’t have any ??
I’ve been saying for ages we need a quality creative centre midfield player to pull the strings. It stands out a mile. In addition his tactics are extremely negative and boring ??
He’s had investment and yes time should be given, but to someone else.
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Isn’t that the point he is making. Tottenham need more creativity and Without investment 4th-6th is actually par.
 
Swango1980 said:
I assume you are on the internet typing this post? If so, it might be a good idea to Google it, or go on Wiki. It takes seconds and it isn't cheating. It is not a test :)

According to Wiki, he didn't win anything in Italy, except a runner up in UEFA Cup?
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oh dear me, my memory isn’t as good as I thought it was.

I’ll pass on googling and reading wiki, it’s not that important really.
 
I've just watched a documentary about the 1970 world cup on the BBC. I'm going out on a limb here, wow the standard of football was absolutely shocking, some proper Sunday pub team stuff going on.
There I've said it ?
 
Beezerk said:
I've just watched a documentary about the 1970 world cup on the BBC. I'm going out on a limb here, wow the standard of football was absolutely shocking, some proper Sunday pub team stuff going on.
There I've said it ?
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Definitely makes sense.

With the money and technology in the game now, the standard must be a lot higher. Also, coaches have had another 50 years to improve and refine their advice and tactics.

The gulf between the best and worst teams would have been much much higher back then as well. I'm guessing the World Cup had quite a few amateur footballers in the past, especially for the minor nations. The coach was probably a full.time PE teacher. Whereas now even the worst teams are made up.of professional footballers and full time coach and staff.
 
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