The Footie Thread

[Bdill93]

Great result for the villa today! They might not be playing well for their aspirations but spurs are a top side with a top manager and Unai found a way to win.

Nice to see McGinn getting back to form after a poor 2022 at club level.

Going to be an interesting January window for us, no clue what Unai wants to address first.

Hopefully 2023 is a better year for villa than 2022 and we start marching up the table.

 

[Slime]

Question to all those who thought United were mad for not hiring Conte when they could have done, do you still think United made a mistake?






Thought not.

 

[fundy]

Another good days results

Thought Villa deserved their win against a poor Spurs side and a much better effort from Forest. Was what I was expecting to see from them last week, they need to find a way to transfer their home performances to away performances, starting at Southampton. Massive massive game that for both sides

 

[Slime]

A great weekend for United.
The only blot on the landscape was L'pool's fortunate win against Leicester City.
Unbelievably, what many think as an awful United side are only four points behind what many think, including myself, are champions elect, Man City!

 

[fundy]

A great weekend for United.
The only blot on the landscape was L'pool's fortunate win against Leicester City.
Unbelievably, what many think as an awful United are only four points behind what many think, including myself, are champions elect, Man City!

and 11 points behind a side you beat

 

[Slime]

and 11 points behind a side you beat

It's a marathon, not a sprint.






Please let me hang on to that thought.

 

[Tashyboy]

He does, Phil. But I’ve never been one of those fans who just wants an instant fix. I love watching a manager build a club and a successful side by putting his stamp on things and bringing all the pieces together over a period of time. That brings me far more satisfaction than seeing a manager come in, win a trophy and then disappear again. Give me a Ferguson over a Conte any day of the week.

It’s why I’m so enjoying the early signs under ten Hag. He’s building something rather than looking for an instant fix. It’s much easier for regular match goers to have an affinity for a manager they have seen waking down the touchline for an extended period rather than someone like Conte who may do the business, but will be gone in the blink of an eye.

Football, for me, has never been all about winning titles. They are merely the icing on the cake. I want to see a club with a definite identity, something I can align myself to, and a short term manager simply doesn’t give you that.

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Football, for me, has never been all about winning titles. They are merely the icing on the cake. I want to see a club with a definite identity, something I can align myself to, and a short term manager simply doesn’t give you that.

This all day long. As a City fan watching rammel football, my dream was one day being able to watch football being played like Utd used to when we were being battered year after year.
Maybe it’s why I don’t feel the love with England, I just don’t see any identity. And yet Southgate has been there long enough to have that sorted.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Question to all those who thought United were mad for not hiring Conte when they could have done, do you still think United made a mistake?






Thought not.

Long way to go yet before there are any conclusions- going to be a lot more twists yet and lots of points to play for

 

[Aztecs27]

Well, that was MUCH better. We deserved all 3 points based on the 2nd half performance but unfortunately we’re too cagey in the first half (although their goal was a ridiculous bit of luck). Every single player put in a shift today, and can’t fault them. More of the same and I’m confident we stay up.

 

[Slime]

Long way to go yet before there are any conclusions- going to be a lot more twists yet and lots of points to play for

Phil, right now do you think United made a mistake by not hiring Conte?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Phil, right now do you think United made a mistake by not hiring Conte?

As i said - hard to judge right now , when Conte was available they stuck with OGS then went with Rangenick and Spurs have done significantly better than Utd over the period since Conte arrived - Conte got Spurs into CL

1. Manchester City – 79 points, 34 games, +62 GD
2. Liverpool – 79 points, 35 games, +48 GD
3. Arsenal – 77 points, 35 games, +30 GD
4. Newcastle – 72 points, 36 games, +26 GD
5. Tottenham – 71 points, 37 games, +37 GD
6. Manchester United – 59 points, 36 games, 0 GD
7. Chelsea – 56 points, 33 games, +16 GD


It’s going to be easier to judge when the season finishes

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Unfortunately football and many fans are very short termish these days and people want instant success - Conte does that , comes into teams that don’t need huge amounts of work and brings them titles which satisfies those that want instant success etc

People havent got the paitence to let a manager grow a team

If Ten Haag doesn’t bring in success within 2 years then the knives will be out for some

Is that like Hodgson at Liverpool when things didn't go well to start with. All clubs do it and Liverpool are as culpable as others.

 

[BrianM]

Great result for the villa today! They might not be playing well for their aspirations but spurs are a top side with a top manager and Unai found a way to win.

Nice to see McGinn getting back to form after a poor 2022 at club level.

Going to be an interesting January window for us, no clue what Unai wants to address first.

Hopefully 2023 is a better year for villa than 2022 and we start marching up the table.

That ball from McGinn ???

 

[Bdill93]

That ball from McGinn ???

So good to see! One of very few players who is still around from the championship days, so much love for McGinn.

 

[Aztecs27]

Also, whatever Morgan Gibbs-White ends up costing us, was worth every penny and more. Just an absolute baller.

 

[Golfmmad]

All it's done is delayed Lampard's P45 by another week.

I'll give your post an unlike! ?

 

[HomecountiesJohn]

Is that like Hodgson at Liverpool when things didn't go well to start with. All clubs do it and Liverpool are as culpable as others.

Did it ever go well at any point in his time there?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Did it ever go well at any point in his time there?

Nope

Think the low point was when we were 16th , then knocked out by Northampton in the cup and having players like Poulsen and Konchesky in the team - he shouldn’t have been given the job in the first place - zero track record at a big club. The worst manager in our history

 

[HomecountiesJohn]

Question to all those who thought United were mad for not hiring Conte when they could have done, do you still think United made a mistake?






Thought not.

Possibly not but they were for employing Ollie.

Had Man u employed Conte he would have had a lot more financial backing than he’s had at Tottenham. I find it impossible to compare managers v clubs, generally clubs are not on a level playing field.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Nope

Think the low point was when we were 16th , then knocked out by Northampton in the cup and having players like Poulsen and Konchesky in the team - he shouldn’t have been given the job in the first place - zero track record at a big club. The worst manager in our history

Isn't that the fault of the board or the recruitment team rather than Hodgson? This is a genuine question not a dig as I've got no idea of the hierarchy at Liverpool. Wasn't Hodgson just playing those players that were available for him to pick? Did he have better options available to him?