The Footie Thread

[Orikoru]

Just seen the score - hahaha! How embarrassing. What an utterly pointless competition and a total waste of time at the end of a long, long season. Obviously not our strongest team and even the players with something to prove clearly can't be bothered.

But sod it anyway, Southgate out! ?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Just seen the score - hahaha! How embarrassing. What an utterly pointless competition and a total waste of time at the end of a long, long season. Obviously not our strongest team and even the players with something to prove clearly can't be bothered.

But sod it anyway, Southgate out! ?

The irony is it has the potential to be decent, the concept is good. Lesser teams get the chance to win games as they play each other and stuff

Just it's shunted In around other things and is just too much

 

[ColchesterFC]

Southgate out!!! Easy to say that but who do you bring in instead? I've got a suggestion. This guy looks like he'd be perfect for football management........

 

[ger147]

England have clearly never recovered from their crushing 0-0 defeat against Scotland last summer.

 

[ColchesterFC]

The irony is it has the potential to be decent, the concept is good. Lesser teams get the chance to win games as they play each other and stuff

Just it's shunted In around other things and is just too much

I agree, in that it's better for the lower ranked teams to play against other teams that are closer to their ability to give them the opportunity to improve rather than getting stuffed every match. I've never understood the point of putting San Marino up against Germany or Gibraltar up against Spain in the World Cup or Euros. Neither team learns anything or improves by winning/losing 10-0.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Agreed it’s mental how many games they are asked to play.

One thing we have learned tonight though is Phillips can’t play without Rice.

All these games have shown is it's rice plus another next to him

They have also shown Phillips and Bellingham might not be ready .. well Phillips did have the injury

Think JWP would be the perfect partner

 

[Golfmmad]

Just watched Gareth Southgates interview and he summed it up perfectly.
Don't panic guys!

 

[Hobbit]

The irony is it has the potential to be decent, the concept is good. Lesser teams get the chance to win games as they play each other and stuff

Just it's shunted In around other things and is just too much

It may have the potential to be good but in terms of the World Cup, the Euros and ‘targeted‘ (development) friendlies, club games, inc. cups, Champion’s League etc just where does it fit into the calendar? In isolation, it might have some small merit… no, it’s just total rubbish and needs dropping

 

[SteveJay]

I agree, in that it's better for the lower ranked teams to play against other teams that are closer to their ability to give them the opportunity to improve rather than getting stuffed every match. I've never understood the point of putting San Marino up against Germany or Gibraltar up against Spain in the World Cup or Euros. Neither team learns anything or improves by winning/losing 10-0.

That's good then, as England will be playing against the lesser rated teams next time, once we have been relegated.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

It may have the potential to be good but in terms of the World Cup, the Euros and ‘targeted‘ (development) friendlies, club games, inc. cups, Champion’s League etc just where does it fit into the calendar? In isolation, it might have some small merit… no, it’s just total rubbish and needs dropping

Agreed

Some changes work well but it is dragging out players seasons

The changes to Europe this season bringing in conference and making Europa shorter was a good move

Sometimes less is more

 

[srixon 1]

Southgate out!!! Easy to say that but who do you bring in instead? I've got a suggestion. This guy looks like he'd be perfect for football management........

Well he’s not got much else to do for a few years yet. ?

 

[williamalex1]

England have clearly never recovered from their crushing 0-0 defeat against Scotland last summer.

 

[Tashyboy]

Bang on.
Southgate somehow doesn't see how poor we are against the high press, we are clueless and give it away far too cheaply. We need to hard press from the front ourselves and put the opponents on the back foot.

This all day, but there is a massive flaw in southgates inability to do this. When you play with four defenders and two holding defensive players. That leaves four players to press and it just will not work. You need more than four. Southgate played one game with 7 defensive players. There’s not a cat in hells chance you can press with that formation.

 

[Tashyboy]

What I couldn’t understand during the game, for one of the goals walker was at right back and James right side midfield. Why play two right backs. Why not a right back and a right side midfielder. One who defends and one who can do both.

 

[ColchesterFC]

That's good then, as England will be playing against the lesser rated teams next time, once we have been relegated.

Can we be relegated far enough that we might actually be competitive next time out?

 

[Rlburnside]

This all day, but there is a massive flaw in southgates inability to do this. When you play with four defenders and two holding defensive players. That leaves four players to press and it just will not work. You need more than four. Southgate played one game with 7 defensive players. There’s not a cat in hells chance you can press with that formation.

You can’t really say it’s a flaw of Southgates tactics because he never sets his team to work the high press that’s not what he’s asking them to do.

You could argue that he should play a more aggressive high press game but that’s not his style.

But I agree with most we’ve got to change and find how to get the best out of some of our young talented attacking players.

I’m worried we’re going to revert to type at the World Cup especially after the last 4 games and be very defensive

 

[Rlburnside]

Just watched Gareth Southgates interview and he summed it up perfectly.
Don't panic guys!

See Spurs are going to sign Bissouma from Brighton what do you think of him, just got to keep him out of nightclubs?

 

[Tashyboy]

You can’t really say it’s a flaw of Southgates tactics because he never sets his team to work the high press that’s not what he’s asking them to do.

You could argue that he should play a more aggressive high press game but that’s not his style.

But I agree with most we’ve got to change and find how to get the best out of some of our young talented attacking players.

I’m worried we’re going to revert to type at the World Cup especially after the last 4 games and be very defensive

I struggle to see how a back four, with Bellingham and Rice in centre mid is not a solid basis. ( Mount, Phillips and others for centre mid ). There’s plenty to slot in either side with Kane and an other up front. But it just don’t seem we have any identity or style of play. New players are being brought in to play what system ?

 

[Hobbit]

Just out of curiosity I gave a brief thought to the number of games players could be asked to play. 38 league matches. A League and FA cup run, maybe 3 or 4 if the team progresses well. A Champion’s League run, 6 or whatever. Several internationals.

50 matches. Chalk a few off for being rested, or an accumulation of yellow cards. Let’s call it 45. 45 in a 45 week season, inc internationals. Madness!

 

[RRidges]

Just out of curiosity I gave a brief thought to the number of games players could be asked to play. 38 league matches. A League and FA cup run, maybe 3 or 4 if the team progresses well. A Champion’s League run, 6 or whatever. Several internationals.

50 matches. Chalk a few off for being rested, or an accumulation of yellow cards. Let’s call it 45. 45 in a 45 week season, inc internationals. Madness!

Given the millions they are paid, that's still an obscenely enormous rate of pay!