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The Footie Thread

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I think we are seeing tonight why Southgate sticks with the tried and tested.
Last 2 games we just look so disjointed
Where’s Grealish gone he’s totally disappeared
Interesting that so many clamoured for his inclusion from the start. He should have been brought on when the game opened up.
 
England have as much of an attacking option as Man City and Liverpool have, if not more. Yet they play a more defensive formation. The difference being the club teams have pep and Klopp England have Southgate. There in lies the problem for me in that we are not getting the most out of this generation. Couple
With the fact he plays out of form Players and what is our actual style of play. He leaves himself open to criticism.
 
The difference between England and the likes of City, Liverpool and Chelsea is the quality of the CB’s

Look at both teams and the quality CBs are

VVD , Konate , Rudiger , Matip , Laporte , Dias , Silva

The English ones are Stones , Gomez and Tomori

And all three of them aren’t play regularly

if they were then Stones and Gomez would be first choice , both quality on the ball and Gomez has the level of pace needed to cover full backs who go on

Because England don’t have the quality at CB that means Southgate goes ultra defensive and plays 3 CBs plus two holding mids.

What it means is that England won’t get the best out of the better players - Foden , TAA etc
 
The difference between England and the likes of City, Liverpool and Chelsea is the quality of the CB’s

Look at both teams and the quality CBs are

VVD , Konate , Rudiger , Matip , Laporte , Dias , Silva

The English ones are Stones , Gomez and Tomori

And all three of them aren’t play regularly

if they were then Stones and Gomez would be first choice , both quality on the ball and Gomez has the level of pace needed to cover full backs who go on

Because England don’t have the quality at CB that means Southgate goes ultra defensive and plays 3 CBs plus two holding mids.

What it means is that England won’t get the best out of the better players - Foden , TAA etc
agree.
But we won’t get anything out of Foden if he’s warming the bench and Sterling is playing.
He’s got a choice but makes the wrong ones.
Maguire looked like he was running in treacle arm up for offside , but he must realise VAR will spot that and sprint back ( if he can sprint)
 
Interesting that so many clamoured for his inclusion from the start. He should have been brought on when the game opened up.
He came on for 15 minutes the other night and did ok
All of a sudden he starts and he’s pants again.
Just like his form for City since his move very up and down.
He’s said it himself he’s lost confidence and is worried about losing the ball,you just can’t play football to your max with that worry.
 
I’d like to see England go into the world cup & just go for it.
We’re not good enough to try & win 1-0 against top teams.
Got some cracking attack minded players tho.
 
I’d like to see England go into the world cup & just go for it.
We’re not good enough to try & win 1-0 against top teams.
Got some cracking attack minded players tho.
Seeing an interview he did the other day I believe he has grasped the fans frustration at the above.
I also believe he knows if he did that our defensive frailties will become even more evident.
A fine balance.
 
Seeing an interview he did the other day I believe he has grasped the fans frustration at the above.
I also believe he knows if he did that our defensive frailties will become even more evident.
A fine balance.
Tbh mate id rather lose 3-2 in big games than 1-0 or on penalties.
Play to out strengths ?‍♂️
 
I reckon Southgate will be absolutely buzzing this summer. Undefeated against big teams like Italy and Germany. He'll think that is exceptional.

Meanwhile, the rest of us watched, potentially, the three dullest consecutive international matches by England in a long time.

Assuming England are one of the big international teams, which they should be, they are the best boring team of them all. They'll go into any big win just desperately hoping to not lose. Whereas I am pretty sure nations like France, Spain, Germany, etc always go into big games positively. Almost with expectation. They may not always have the quality, or the luck, but they'll always go in to a match really assertively. It is why I think a big nation with a set of more average players than normal will still always be favourites against an England side with really strong players.

Come on England. Just one day stop being so scared, stand with your heads high and give it a go. I'm sure fans will forgive losses so long as England gave them something to get excited about.
 
I reckon Southgate will be absolutely buzzing this summer. Undefeated against big teams like Italy and Germany. He'll think that is exceptional.

Meanwhile, the rest of us watched, potentially, the three dullest consecutive international matches by England in a long time.

Assuming England are one of the big international teams, which they should be, they are the best boring team of them all. They'll go into any big win just desperately hoping to not lose. Whereas I am pretty sure nations like France, Spain, Germany, etc always go into big games positively. Almost with expectation. They may not always have the quality, or the luck, but they'll always go in to a match really assertively. It is why I think a big nation with a set of more average players than normal will still always be favourites against an England side with really strong players.

Come on England. Just one day stop being so scared, stand with your heads high and give it a go. I'm sure fans will forgive losses so long as England gave them something to get excited about.

Were Italy or Germany any less boring?
 
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