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Swango1980
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I just personally think he is ridiculously over-hyped. He has a very good delivery, no doubt about it. But I'm unsure if that is enough to get him in the team of the year. He has had 12 assists in the PL this season. Reece James has had 9, and played 6 fewer games (and played in a team who scored 18 fewer goals). James also scored 3 more goals. James has a tackle win rate of 76%, compared to 57% for TAA.
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This was pretty good though ?
But as before - it’s the players making the choices , the guys playing alongside each other - their fellow pros
Not sure it’s worth the reactions - TAA is one of the best players in the league and was again last season , so was James but both play in different ways and different set ups - we can bring up multiple stats but does it really - suspect neither team would swap.
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He suits Liverpool because that have 2 fantastic CBs (well 3 but only 2 at a time) .. they can afford Trent to not worry about his defending as much
This causes issues for England and people can't accept he isn't the best choice at times
James is excellent and would fit Liverpool aswell but Trent does his job for them just what they need
Let's face it what he offers going forward they can forgive the odd goal against
fundy
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You do know that other keepers can be considered rather than just Pool and Citys?
Jose Sa can consider himself her unluckiest player in the prem to not be in this side on pretty much every metric bar not playing for a top 4 side lol
Tashyboy
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Fundy.
I totally agree with you but that’s one example. Ederson and Allison shared the golden glove yet Liverpool had 2x players in front of him in defence.
So here’s another angle.
Who won the golden boot.
Salah and Son. Yet who was PFA player of the year. Salah. Eh. Son who played in a hit and miss team, his goals took Spuds to the champs league outshining Kane and yet he is not in. He is not in yet Mane is. ?
These awards quite frankly look plastic when analysed.
I totally agree with you but that’s one example. Ederson and Allison shared the golden glove yet Liverpool had 2x players in front of him in defence.
So here’s another angle.
Who won the golden boot.
Salah and Son. Yet who was PFA player of the year. Salah. Eh. Son who played in a hit and miss team, his goals took Spuds to the champs league outshining Kane and yet he is not in. He is not in yet Mane is. ?
These awards quite frankly look plastic when analysed.
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Doesn’t Ederson have £200mil plus CB’s in front of him ? Wasn’t Dias supposed to be at the level of VVD ?
Salah didn’t win the POTY just because he won the golden boot - he was also the top assists in the league as well
And if you’re looking at Son being in which is a good shout the one player that would miss out would be Ronaldo not Mane who was superb for most of the season
fundy
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No issue with Salah winning POTY, can make a case it shouldve been KDB (once City won the league) but can see why Salah got it
The only way Manes in side of the year is if you include African Nations performances lol.
Prem:
Mane 16 goals, 2 assists in 34 games
Ronaldo 18 goals 3 assists in 30 games
Son 23 goals 7 assists in 35 games
and Mane was playing in by far the best side of the three of them......
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Swango1980
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Funny. Happy to fall behind the "it was the fellow pros who picked the players" when people wonder why certain Liverpool players are in the team. But then happy to say you think other players should be in the team, as long as they don't replace a Liverpool player.
Tashyboy
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I think I should ma
I think I should make clear that I have no issue with Salah being in the team of the year or in fact winning player of the year. But I would expect the top three players of Salah, Son and KDB to be in the team.
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Mane is one of those that look beyond the stats - he moved from the wide left to play as a more central striker and his link up play was excellent and was a big reason why we caught up with City - but I suspect some players when voting would have looked at his impact ( rightly or wrongly ) across all the formats.
For the front three imo it’s prob closer to have a three of Salah , Bowen and Son
Swango1980
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Indeed. If Liverpoolphil is allowed to use the line "he was brilliant for us", then I'll use the same for Ronaldo. What he did in one of the most abysmal Utd sides I have seen since the PL began was outstanding. Son deserves to be in that team though, and I'd have easily put him in ahead of Mane.
fundy
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Ronaldos numbers for a guy in a new team, that was falling apart around him and where most were on the beach before the end of the season are pretty exceptional tbh. If it was anyone other than Ronaldo I expect youd have him in your side
Swango1980
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Indeed. Ronaldo was the reason Utd finished above Bowen's West Ham. The rest of the West Ham team around Bowen were so much better as a team than the shambles around Ronaldo.Ronaldos numbers for a guy in a new team, that was falling apart around him and where most were on the beach before the end of the season are pretty exceptional tbh. If it was anyone other than Ronaldo I expect youd have him in your side
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Ronaldos numbers for a guy in a new team, that was falling apart around him and where most were on the beach before the end of the season are pretty exceptional tbh. If it was anyone other than Ronaldo I expect youd have him in your side
Ronaldo will always put up good numbers - he is that good a player and there is no doubt that without him Utd would have been bottom half of the table but think the impact that Salah , Bowen and Son have had for their respective teams have been outstanding - if Mane missed out or Ronaldo missed out for the likes of Son etc then I don’t think it would be the wrong choice
And if it was done at the end of the season then Son would have been in the team
Rlburnside
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That makes the team selection pointless what numpty thought it was a good idea to have a shortlist with so much of the season left
Swango1980
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Maybe they anticipated the United players would finish their season with a few months to spare, and wanted to make sure they got their votes in before they mentally went on holiday
nickjdavis
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That will explain why Joelinton isn't in the team.
Slime
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De Gea had Maguire in front of him .............................. De Gea would get my vote.
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Pin-seeker
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Richarlison on his way to Spurs?
