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The Footie Thread

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4LEX said:
That's not true though. Neville backed Ole for years when it was clear he was out of his depth and doing untold damage. Everything I said about MUFC and Ole has been proven correct over time. Ditto the Rangick appointment. The only thing I've got wrong is I thought Utd would finish Top 4 despite the turmoil. Still a slight chance of that with Spurs and Arsenal being made of jelly though ;)
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It is absolutely true.

You only disagree with Neville on his apparent public backing of Solskjaer. The post I quoted, in which you referred to Neville as clueless, then went on to make a number of the points that Neville himself has made time and time again. The clear implication of that must be either that Neville isn’t actually clueless, or you are, because the two of you share much common ground.

Sorry, but I can’t interpret that in any other way.

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Swango1980 said:
There is a difference between backing a manager, and simply not calling for him to be sacked. Do you really think Ole was doing untold damage, or the people above his pay grade?

I don't think anyone thought Ragnick would be a genius manager at Utd, not even the board, otherwise they'd have employed him full time. But, the manager they wanted wasn't available mid season, and so why employ a full time manager they don't really fancy? The season was pretty much a write off, and was really hope that we could finish top 4.

Neville has continually slated the owners of the club. He has continually discussed how bad the team have played. He criticised the Super League idea. Do you agree with any of that.
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Glad to see they have learned from past mistakes. Wasn’t Ollie brought in as a mid campaign manager but kept on.
 
Tashyboy said:
Glad to see they have learned from past mistakes. Wasn’t Ollie brought in as a mid campaign manager but kept on.
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The side went on a ridiculously good run when he was appointed, so much so that the club then went against its intention of reviewing his long term future in the summer, by giving him a contract in the spring. They then had an awful end to that season, on a par with that which eventually saw him sacked.
 
Since Abramovich’s sanctions, it’s no coincidence that Chelsea’s results and performances have deteriorated. Players clearly more concerned about their future wages.
With rising energy and fuel costs it must be worryingly for them ??
 
Tashyboy said:
Glad to see they have learned from past mistakes. Wasn’t Ollie brought in as a mid campaign manager but kept on.
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Exactly as Billy said. He was brought in as a temp manager, and Utd started playing like Barcelona of 10 years ago. The results and performances were so good, the board (and fans) felt Ole was actually possibly a great manager, and the players fantastic once the shackles were taken off them.

However, the board jumped the gun and gave Ole a full time contract before the end of the season. That raised one of my eyebrows at the time, there was no need. Not like Ole would have moved on if Utd were not quick to snap him up. As soon as contract signed, United turned awful overnight.

So, I've no doubt Ragnick would never have been given a full time contract before the end of the season. If United had played brilliant football since he came in, of course his full time future would need to be considered in the summer. In a way, the fact this has not happened makes the decision so much easier. Utd can go for the full time manager they want, without being swayed by good performances under the temp manager.
 
Jensen said:
Since Abramovich’s sanctions, it’s no coincidence that Chelsea’s results and performances have deteriorated. Players clearly more concerned about their future wages.
With rising energy and fuel costs it must be worryingly for them ??
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If you think that affects players - and it is understandble/reasonable that they might be 'concerned' as they probably have serious (lifestyle related) outgoings along with their serious pay - just consider Sean Dyke's reported key half time pep talk inspirational statement last night.... using Everton's dismal away record to 'inspire' his players! o_O Maybe I should reconsider my earlier statement...Top Footballers heads don't seem to be for thinking!
 
The mighty Fulham only two wins away from the PL Hopefully lessons learned from past promotions and no panic buys "to strengthen" when all it does is dilute the squad. Mitrovic being developed into more of a rounded forward player (as well as his goal scoring) and is becoming even better with international experience. I hope we get a good whack of cash for Carvalho and we invest that wisely. Plenty of teams in the bottom third of the PL we are probably on a par with. Get it done at Derby a week tomorrow
 
HomerJSimpson said:
The mighty Fulham only two wins away from the PL Hopefully lessons learned from past promotions and no panic buys "to strengthen" when all it does is dilute the squad. Mitrovic being developed into more of a rounded forward player (as well as his goal scoring) and is becoming even better with international experience. I hope we get a good whack of cash for Carvalho and we invest that wisely. Plenty of teams in the bottom third of the PL we are probably on a par with. Get it done at Derby a week tomorrow
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Not going to be much for Carvalho is it after you agreed to sell at £8m in January?

Is your owner happy to pump more money in and will he even be allowed under FFP rules? Not had much to show for nearly half a billion so far and recent losses likely to limit what can be spent for a while surely?

Where do you think you need strengthening?
 
HomerJSimpson said:
The mighty Fulham only two wins away from the PL Hopefully lessons learned from past promotions and no panic buys "to strengthen" when all it does is dilute the squad. Mitrovic being developed into more of a rounded forward player (as well as his goal scoring) and is becoming even better with international experience. I hope we get a good whack of cash for Carvalho and we invest that wisely. Plenty of teams in the bottom third of the PL we are probably on a par with. Get it done at Derby a week tomorrow
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Surely the lesson learned will be buy some bloody decent defenders this time. Looking forward to seeing Mitrovic score 8 goals next season though. :p
 
[QUOTE="Orikoru, post: 2486858, member: 22581"Looking forward to seeing Mitrovic score 8 goals next season though. :p[/QUOTE]
Wait....what? He's going on a season loan to Torquay?
 
HomerJSimpson said:
The mighty Fulham only two wins away from the PL Hopefully lessons learned from past promotions and no panic buys "to strengthen" when all it does is dilute the squad. Mitrovic being developed into more of a rounded forward player (as well as his goal scoring) and is becoming even better with international experience. I hope we get a good whack of cash for Carvalho and we invest that wisely. Plenty of teams in the bottom third of the PL we are probably on a par with. Get it done at Derby a week tomorrow
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A Tribunal will decide how much Liverpool will have to pay for Carvalho.
 
Massive game for West Ham tonight, as big as theyve had as a club for a pretty long while. Pulling hard for them as have a few mates that are fans but wont be easy against Lyon
 
fundy said:
Massive game for West Ham tonight, as big as theyve had as a club for a pretty long while. Pulling hard for them as have a few mates that are fans but wont be easy against Lyon
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Had to sell my tickets for tonight as My mate couldn't make it and it's Easter holidays so everyone is away

Making do with the TV lol
 
fundy said:
Oh man surely you could find someone to use the other one!!!

Hard watch (and especially listen) so far, West Ham need to get on the front foot more
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I did have a spud mate lined up, but thought I'd sell them to another hammer instead let them enjoy it
 
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