The Footie Thread

[Orikoru]

A good point, do not even need a doctor in the ground, just at the VAR centre

Haha, well I think he can still do an assessment of the player's reflexes etc (whatever they test, I dunno, I'm not a doctor). But it must be near impossible to judge if he was knocked out for even a second or two, the player himself may not even realise or remember. A look at the pitchside monitor could help.

 

[GB72]

Haha, well I think he can still do an assessment of the player's reflexes etc (whatever they test, I dunno, I'm not a doctor). But it must be near impossible to judge if he was knocked out for even a second or two, the player himself may not even realise or remember. A look at the pitchside monitor could help.

I was more thinking about watching the footage for impact and the need to pull a player for an HIA. That can be done by an independent doctor at Stockley Park. Does not need an independent doctor to carry out the assessment, no doctor is going to fluff the results and put the club before their medical licence.

 

[pokerjoke]

Blimey, come on. He's been getting to the edge of the box and having pot shots. So I've been saying he's going to smash one in. Ergo a screamer.

No, he didn't do that yesterday. but it was a great goal, which as I said was a top class finish. Nice of you to request I spell it out though!

No problem
Trouble is is wasn’t a great goal either.
7 yards out it was a goal
Even the keeper dived out the way

 

[YandaB]

Please don't mistake being uncounsious for concussion, certainly being unconsious is absolutley a sympton of concussion but you do not have to be knocked out to be suffering from concussion (in fact less than 10% of cases include loss of consciosness). Concussion symptoms include memory loss, "seeing stars", confusion etc. Indeed the FA's own concussion guidelines are sub-titled "If in doubt sit them out". Whilst there is a good poke at VAR on this thread, there is mention in the guidance of using video footage to support any on field assessments.
https://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/pdf/my-football/the-fa-concussion-guidelines-2019.ashx?la=en

 

[Deleted member 1740]

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171 pens in 30 seasons is only 5.7per season. We've had 4 this season and should've had another 4 at least to date.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Blimey, come on. He's been getting to the edge of the box and having pot shots. So I've been saying he's going to smash one in. Ergo a screamer.

No, he didn't do that yesterday. but it was a great goal, which as I said was a top class finish. Nice of you to request I spell it out though!

It required more skill than just to bang one from 25yards out.

A Centre Half shouldnt be running through a midfield amd defence and dinking the keeper.

What a pass though from the 1 season wonder ?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

No problem
Trouble is is wasn’t a great goal either.
7 yards out it was a goal
Even the keeper dived out the way

????

 

[Swango1980]

They should start using VAR to help judge if a player has been knocked out or not. It's been sod all use for anything else so far, so they might as well do something positive with it.

If a player goes down, clutching their face in agony, they should automatically be taken off for 10 minutes minimum, and a temporary sub used.

It might make players think twice about acting up like big drama queens by pretending an opponent has made contact with their head. If their actions suggest they have an agonising head injury, they are taken off the pitch for a comprehensive assessment. Simple.

 

[Orikoru]

If a player goes down, clutching their face in agony, they should automatically be taken off for 10 minutes minimum, and a temporary sub used.

It might make players think twice about acting up like big drama queens by pretending an opponent has made contact with their head. If their actions suggest they have an agonising head injury, they are taken off the pitch for a comprehensive assessment. Simple.

Can't really do that. Managers will be instructing one of their forwards to do it with ten minutes to go so they can bring on another sub to play in defence and hold onto a victory.

 

[Swango1980]

Can't really do that. Managers will be instructing one of their forwards to do it with ten minutes to go so they can bring on another sub to play in defence and hold onto a victory.

If a team was to try and plan for that, it would only work if the player they want to take off gets any sort of contact to their head. That would be a pretty big coincidence, unless the player gets contact on ANY part of their body and then feigns contact to the head. However, there could be a condition that, if evidence shows there was clearly no contact to the head, then that player should get a huge ban and a big fine for the team.

I was thinking to the Ajax game last night, where a player fell down in "agony" after minimal to zero contact to his head after a heated exchange. I doubt he'd have done that if he knew he'd have to leave the pitch for 10 minutes.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

If a player goes down, clutching their face in agony, they should automatically be taken off for 10 minutes minimum, and a temporary sub used.

It might make players think twice about acting up like big drama queens by pretending an opponent has made contact with their head. If their actions suggest they have an agonising head injury, they are taken off the pitch for a comprehensive assessment. Simple.

Fernandes would only spend 8 minutes on the pitch every week ?

 

[Swango1980]

Fernandes would only spend 8 minutes on the pitch every week ?

Very true, and I would be pleased if it stopped him doing that. Annoys me.

Although, I don't think he is clutching his head feigning a head injury on most occasions. Rather, he is on the ground pretending he is in agony elsewhere, and he covers his face to cover his fake tears.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Kneejerk?? They've conceded more goals than anyone else and only won 5 games. They could be in serious trouble given that the three teams below them have games in hand. In many ways they've kind of seamlessly replaced Bournemouth.

Its a particularly bad spell at the minute. But it happens every season. I’m pretty confident we’ll be fine once we have some decent players back in action.

Admittedly losing to Everton and Newcastle was painful. And constantly playing Tyler Roberts is baffling.

Who would replace Bielsa at this stage of the season?

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Fernandes would only spend 8 minutes on the pitch every week ?

The warm up?

 

[Orikoru]

Its a particularly bad spell at the minute. But it happens every season. I’m pretty confident we’ll be fine once we have some decent players back in action.

Admittedly losing to Everton and Newcastle was painful. And constantly playing Tyler Roberts is baffling.

Who would replace Bielsa at this stage of the season?

Big Sam? Nuno? Ole? Benitez? Ranieri? Alright fair point.

 

[fundy]

This isnt good

https://twitter.com/x/status/1490373742454837251

unlike the right cross from Keenan Davis i think it is lol

4mths sentence and a 10 year footie ban it seems

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-60512219

 

[Tashyboy]

There needs to be some new head injury protocols. But there needs to be some very carefully considered rules. I don’t think just bringing on any sub is the right thing. It will get used tactically very quickly.

Here’s a thought, have a neutral dr assess players. His decision stands. End of.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Here’s a thought, have a neutral dr assess players. His decision stands. End of.

Agree with that.

But what about the sub who goes on while the player is being assessed? It’s wide open to abuse.

Maybe they should have to use the sub keeper. Or have an U23 player pre nominated as the concussion sub.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Very true, and I would be pleased if it stopped him doing that. Annoys me.

Although, I don't think he is clutching his head feigning a head injury on most occasions. Rather, he is on the ground pretending he is in agony elsewhere, and he covers his face to cover his fake tears.

He, like most other PL footballers, have no boundaries when it comes to feigning injury.

Unfortunately it's part of the game and it's goin nowhere anytime soon. That one whe he was rolling round the floor when leeds scored on sunday was very funny.

On a sidenote he's odds on for the Hide&Seek champion award this season......

 

[Slime]

Fernandes would only spend 8 minutes on the pitch every week ?