The Footie Thread

[Deleted member 15344]

Don't forget about Rooney, I think he's doing a superb job at Derby.
Obviously he's got a long way to go, but I think he's showing some promise.

Yes definitely- he has made a great start and have to give him a lot of kudos for sticking with Derby. Actually would like them to stay up.

Rooney in fairness is prob the person people thought wouldn’t be anywhere near managerial material but he is proving that wrong so far

 

[pokerjoke]

Was busy bowling in the inter-club league. Why would Wilder leave a massive club like the Boro to manage a village club like West Brom

Steve Bruce is favourite apparently according to Sky

 

[Foxholer]

The early signs are positive. Seems to be tactically astute and a good motivator, it's always been clear that he's a leader.

Will be interesting to see how he goes when it comes to spending some more cash in the summer, or if Villa have a good second half of the season, how he goes with increased expectation. Still v early days in his career.

There's definitely 2 (at least) distinct areas of management that top ex-players like Rooney have to grapple with. And buying the right players is a key one. Frank Lampard is still learning that part of the role.

 

[Golfmmad]

None of that really ties in with my opinions. Potter seems to be a excellent manager, I'd happily have him at Spurs when Conte gets bored. Gerrard seems to have started well, and I think Lampard did well at Chelsea when bringing the youth players in and finishing top four under the transfer ban - just a little out of his depth when the ban was lifted and they gave him new players left, right and centre. I also rate Allardyce and Hodgson as sensible, pragmatic managers to bring in when you're down in the crap at the bottom of the league. Bruce less so, he seems a bit clueless at times.

Edit: To bring it back to what prompted this - it's only Howe I think has been massively overrated! Probably because of the fact he's English. If he was foreign he'd be seen as naive rather than a plucky young English manager.

Why is it that people think that they can lure Graham Potter away from Brighton.
Why would he want to go anywhere else when he has every thing at Brighton - a great stadium, very supportive Chairman, Chief executive and back room staff, not forgetting the players and the squad being built for the future.
I've already told Lord Tyrion to keep his hands off, now I'll say the same to you. ?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Think if anything Rooney has had one of the toughest starts to a managerial career with everything going on. It will be interesting to see if he stays on if Derby go down or is attracted to a bigger club then and what he is capable of when he has resources to buy and sell players and build his own squad to fit his managerial vision

 

[Swango1980]

Why is it that people think that they can lure Graham Potter away from Brighton.
Why would he want to go anywhere else when he has every thing at Brighton - a great stadium, very supportive Chairman, Chief executive and back room staff, not forgetting the players and the squad being built for the future.
I've already told Lord Tyrion to keep his hands off, now I'll say the same to you. ?

Salary?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Why is it that people think that they can lure Graham Potter away from Brighton.
Why would he want to go anywhere else when he has every thing at Brighton - a great stadium, very supportive Chairman, Chief executive and back room staff, not forgetting the players and the squad being built for the future.
I've already told Lord Tyrion to keep his hands off, now I'll say the same to you. ?

A step up - Brighton are doing well but there a lot bigger clubs that would be seen as a step for him - Spurs , Arsenal , West Ham , Everton etc

They could offer bigger wages , more money for transfer etc

If he keeps going someone will come knocking soon

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Salary?

This could be a 'what did the Romans do for us?' moment ?

Keep fighting @Golfmmad , other football fans are with you regarding what is happening at Brighton ?

 

[Golfmmad]

Salary?

I knew someone would say that. ?

 

[Golfmmad]

A step up - Brighton are doing well but there a lot bigger clubs that would be seen as a step for him - Spurs , Arsenal , West Ham , Everton etc

They could offer bigger wages , more money for transfer etc

If he keeps going someone will come knocking soon

He's already taken that step up. The clubs you mention are around the same level.
I'm well aware that money talks but I don't think Potter is the type to go chasing money.
I honestly think that he's happy where he is building for the future.
In the fulness or time I think it would only be the England job that will entice him away.
Just my opinion of course.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Some first half from Celtic

 

[Deleted member 15344]

He's already taken that step up. The clubs you mention are around the same level.
I'm well aware that money talks but I don't think Potter is the type to go chasing money.
I honestly think that he's happy where he is building for the future.
In the fulness or time I think it would only be the England job that will entice him away.
Just my opinion of course.

Sorry but those clubs are the next level up from Brighton , Brighton are doing well , drawing their way to safety but that’s the clubs main aim each season , staying solid in the Prem

The likes of Spurs etc are huge clubs that are aiming first for CL and then to win trophies

Brighton aren’t on the same level as the likes of Arsenal , Spurs etc

 

[Rlburnside]

He's already taken that step up. The clubs you mention are around the same level.
I'm well aware that money talks but I don't think Potter is the type to go chasing money.
I honestly think that he's happy where he is building for the future.
In the fulness or time I think it would only be the England job that will entice him away.
Just my opinion of course.

Chris your going senile in your old age mate ?.
Brighton the same level as Spurs that’s madness.

Potter will be ambitious and he can’t do much better at Brighton, they’ve not got the spending power to compete at a higher level.

As soon as the right offer comes along he will be off.

Maybe to your first team Man United ?

 

[Orikoru]

Why is it that people think that they can lure Graham Potter away from Brighton.
Why would he want to go anywhere else when he has every thing at Brighton - a great stadium, very supportive Chairman, Chief executive and back room staff, not forgetting the players and the squad being built for the future.
I've already told Lord Tyrion to keep his hands off, now I'll say the same to you. ?

Jesus, calm down! I'm not actually in charge of hiring and firing at Spurs anyway so you've nothing to worry about from me. But he will obviously leave Brighton one day and I suspect it will be for a bigger club. ??‍ I hope you're not too heartbroken when it happens.

 

[fundy]

Sorry but those clubs are the next level up from Brighton , Brighton are doing well , drawing their way to safety but that’s the clubs main aim each season , staying solid in the Prem

The likes of Spurs etc are huge clubs that are aiming first for CL and then to win trophies

Brighton aren’t on the same level as the likes of Arsenal , Spurs etc

spurs, trophies? lol Phil youve gone a bit far there

 

[Orikoru]

spurs, trophies? lol Phil youve gone a bit far there

He only said aiming to win trophies to be fair. I guess our aim isn't the best though.

 

[SteveW86]

He only said aiming to win trophies to be fair. I guess our aim isn't the best though.

Storm troopers have better aim

 

[Golfmmad]

Chris your going senile in your old age mate ?.
Brighton the same level as Spurs that’s madness.

Potter will be ambitious and he can’t do much better at Brighton, they’ve not got the spending power to compete at a higher level.

As soon as the right offer comes along he will be off.

Maybe to your first team Man United ?

OK fair point Roy but let's see what happens on Saturday. ?

 

[Rlburnside]

OK fair point Roy but let's see what happens on Saturday. ?

Spurs have a better squad and I expect them to win at home.

Let’s not forget Brighton haven’t got a goal scorer and have only won 6 games all season. ?

Potter looks a good manager and will be a asset to a bigger club?

No loyalty in football remember ?

 

[Swango1980]

He's already taken that step up. The clubs you mention are around the same level.
I'm well aware that money talks but I don't think Potter is the type to go chasing money.
I honestly think that he's happy where he is building for the future.
In the fulness or time I think it would only be the England job that will entice him away.
Just my opinion of course.

You say clubs around Brighton are at the same level. Really? Hypothetically, what is likely to happen IF Potter were to leave Brighton? Assuming he is actually a very good manager, then they are likely to go downhill. So, Potter is a big reason why Brighton are where they are. If you were to compare Brighton with many of the clubs around them, but remove Potter from the equation, then you'd see Brighton are very unlikely at the level of the clubs around them. Then, put Potter back into the equation, but for another club, it is likely to move them even further ahead of Brighton (assuming he lives up to his current reputation).

So, moving to another club would simply show he has ambition to challenge even further towards the top of the table, and perhaps in Europe. And, as I said, from another personal point of view, he will be rewarded financially for it. The risk, of course, is that he doesn't get the results the new club expects. Will they give him the time or not? Mind you, even if that club were to let him go, I've no doubt he'd easily walk into another club, at least at Brighton's level. So, in that sense, it probably isn't much of a risk at all.