Swingalot
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Newcastle saying 12m......reports in Spain its 20m plus...and so it begins. FFP
Newcastle saying 12m......reports in Spain its 20m plus...and so it begins. FFP
SaintHacker
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Why does the 'Hearts of Mid Lithuania' episode spring to mind?I hope it goes better than that did!
It doesn't?
Foxholer
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Does for me! But, as per my above post...I hope it goes better than that did!
Beezerk
Money List Winner
A mate was saying the other day, as Mike Ashley barely spent any money over the last few years Newcastle can spend hundreds of millions of pounds before they get anywhere near the FFP threshold. I'm not exactly sure what the figure is, but it's a lot.
My take on Man United? There is something fundamentally wrong at that club and it runs far deeper than just the manager, so anyone expecting Rangnick to turn things around in half a dozen games is wearing the rosiest of rose tinted specs.
You can see from what goes on down on the pitch that there are big issues behind the scenes. None of us will ever know what those issues are, but there appears to be no harmony whatsoever between the playing staff, and that is impacting on virtually everything they do. It’s in their body language, and it does not take a genius psychologist to see it.
You can see from what goes on down on the pitch that there are big issues behind the scenes. None of us will ever know what those issues are, but there appears to be no harmony whatsoever between the playing staff, and that is impacting on virtually everything they do. It’s in their body language, and it does not take a genius psychologist to see it.
Orikoru
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Clearly Spurs are likely to be the big spenders here then.
Everton are screwed as well. At least their overspending is paying off on the pitch! Oh wait.
I hate FFP to be honest. I think it's a joke. All it does is keep the rich rich and stop anyone else muscling in on the parade. They pretend it's to stop the big clubs just buying up all the big name players, but as you can see here all the bigger clubs still have plenty of wriggle room, perhaps excluding City but they already spent big last summer.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
So Everton bought Patterson with 'dirty money'.
That is a model that is consistent with failure.
That is a model that is consistent with failure.
Cherry13
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220m or so is the figure based on financial performance over the last few years. That doesn’t include increased sponsorship figures and deals. (Sports direct were paying £1m per year for wall to wall sponsorship, I think we can get more from aramco
moving forward)The other factor is how transfer fees are accounted for, so assuming trippier is on a 3 year deal the transfer fee will be either 4 mill per season or 6.6 or what ever so potentially scope their to massively spend.
Regarding the sale price vs Southampton, yes your correct Ashley included about 160m worth of loans in the sale. So probably only paid in region of 140 mill for club.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
220m or so is the figure based on financial performance over the last few years. That doesn’t include increased sponsorship figures and deals. (Sports direct were paying £1m per year for wall to wall sponsorship, I think we can get more from aramco
The other factor is how transfer fees are accounted for, so assuming trippier is on a 3 year deal the transfer fee will be either 4 mill per season or 6.6 or what ever so potentially scope their to massively spend.
Regarding the sale price vs Southampton, yes your correct Ashley included about 160m worth of loans in the sale. So probably only paid in region of 140 mill for club.
Your middle point is what my mate was saying, depending on how the deals are done (and what website you look at lol) it could be upwards of £600.
Either way it’s going to be a fun transfer window ?
Everton will be clearing a lot of money from their wage bill by June 2nd so that will resolve that issue along with the imminent sale of Digne. Patterson is also a snip at around £10m, no doubt spread as @Cherry13 describes, so no 'dirty money'.
I think I am right in saying that FFP is a UEFA thing. If Newcastle, or Everton, break the rules, then big deal. If UEFA want to ban them from the CL for a couple of seasons it is not really going to impact, is it?
Pin-seeker
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Everton are screwed thenView attachment 40367
Clearly Spurs are likely to be the big spenders here then.
Everton are screwed as well. At least their overspending is paying off on the pitch! Oh wait.
I hate FFP to be honest. I think it's a joke. All it does is keep the rich rich and stop anyone else muscling in on the parade. They pretend it's to stop the big clubs just buying up all the big name players, but as you can see here all the bigger clubs still have plenty of wriggle room, perhaps excluding City but they already spent big last summer.
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There are versions of FFP within the Premier league and the EFL - all work alongside the same model - in the Prem it’s transfer bans and fines etc
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Deleted member 16999
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I thought we didn’t believe everything we read in the media:
Googleing “Can Everton spend in Jan” brings up 5-6 articles quoteing the range -35mil to 100mil available.
Whatever he spends it can’t be any worse than the rubbish we’ve already got.
Googleing “Can Everton spend in Jan” brings up 5-6 articles quoteing the range -35mil to 100mil available.
Whatever he spends it can’t be any worse than the rubbish we’ve already got.
Foxholer
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My understanding is that it's based on profit/loss over last few years and that expenditure 'allowance' depends on whether owner has funded losses (in which case significantly more is allowed) or not.
Not sure which value the chart shown earlier uses.
What’s gone wrong at Everton this season? I expected Benitez might get them pushing for top 6, not bottom 6.
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Needs time imo Bri, the last few yesrs we’ve chopped n changed managers, wasted millions on dross players and everytime a manager has come in he’s changed the style etc.
Personally don’t see us going anywhere but backwards if we bin benitez, (unless we are relegated) he needs time to get the players he wants and who understand how he wants to play football.
We are missing Calvert Lewin's goals massively, our back up is non existent. Benitez is also trying to bring in his style of football and we don't necessarily have the players to do it. Add in a number of injuries, outside of DCL, and it shows the lack of depth we have. That lack of depth is largely down to poor buying over a number of years lumbering us with players on high wages that no one else wants and are draining the wage bill. If we can get DCL back and scoring, he is back now but needs to get match sharp, then the pressure should release very quickly.
Further to what Paul wrote, we played a game before Christmas where the team contained players bought by 7 different managers. No way are you going to get any type of cohesion with that type of buying. We need to commit to a manager and stick with them for a period.
Tashyboy
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This was Arsenal when Arteta first went and for a season or so. He just did not have the players. He does now and there not doing to bad at all. Benitez is no muppet and needs time. ?
Bdill93
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Clearly Spurs are likely to be the big spenders here then.
Everton are screwed as well. At least their overspending is paying off on the pitch! Oh wait.
I hate FFP to be honest. I think it's a joke. All it does is keep the rich rich and stop anyone else muscling in on the parade. They pretend it's to stop the big clubs just buying up all the big name players, but as you can see here all the bigger clubs still have plenty of wriggle room, perhaps excluding City but they already spent big last summer.
Aint no way we dont spend more than 5m
