The Footie Thread

[Foxholer]

If the keeper gets yellow for time wasting then does it again he should be sent off. Imo.
That’s consistent and I am sure all others would pay attention in the future.
But the poor standard of refereeing means that just won’t happen.
That’s why a timekeeper is a good idea I think.

Consistent...Perhaps. Spoiling the game?...Possibly a bit more than perhaps! It the natural (?) reluctance for Refs to actually send a GK off for (second offence of) 'timewasting' that's the cause - imo. It would need either a very brave/independent Ref (and I'm not certain there's too many of those) or published/publicised decrees/agreements with Managers that that's 'how it's going to be'.
And FWIW, here's the sort of chaos that can happen when GKs get sent off!

 

[Foxholer]

You think wrong. Certain teams waste time from the first minute and fans are not happy about the referees doing nothing about it.

OK/IYO. Which ones? And how?

 

[Blue in Munich]

OK/IYO. Which ones? And how?

In my opinion and that of the vast majority, if not all of season ticket holders that sit around us. Most teams in the lower half of the Premiership do it but Burnley are by far the worst. Numerous false starts for goal kicks & throw ins, arguing amongst the defence to delay retrieving the dead ball & restarting, "cramp" which is bad enough to warrant going down but never quite bad enough to require leaving the field for treatment, keepers laying on the ball unnecessarily to name a few.

So how do you conclude that it doesn't bother fans; which matches do you go to, & how frequently?

 

[pokerjoke]

You do realise that many things Jurgen moaned about were also instigated, equally raised or latterly raised by Ole, as well as Pep, Tuchel etc?

Then again you probably didnt, cos you're daft these days and you have a warped mind.

Love that episode
Surely you must be sick of Klopps whining.
He’s become more predictable than Liverpool Phil liking all your posts

 

[Foxholer]

In my opinion and that of the vast majority, if not all of season ticket holders that sit around us. Most teams in the lower half of the Premiership do it but Burnley are by far the worst. Numerous false starts for goal kicks & throw ins, arguing amongst the defence to delay retrieving the dead ball & restarting, "cramp" which is bad enough to warrant going down but never quite bad enough to require leaving the field for treatment, keepers laying on the ball unnecessarily to name a few.

So how do you conclude that it doesn't bother fans; which matches do you go to, & how frequently?

I've only gone to half a dozen matches, but I certainly WATCH a lot more.
Never seen particular deliberate instances in any of them early on - but, as previously stated, certainly some in the last 10-15 mins or so.
You may be getting a distorted 'sample' from observing the performance of 'your' team!

 

[Foxholer]

In my opinion and that of the vast majority, if not all of season ticket holders that sit around us. Most teams in the lower half of the Premiership do it but Burnley are by far the worst. ...

Well, that's a truly representative sample then!
Not saying it's wrong; just a huge amount of potential bias!
Do you agree?

 

[fundy]

Well, that's a truly representative sample then!
Not saying it's wrong; just a huge amount of potential bias!
Do you agree?

yet you claiming to watch a few games on tv is a decent representative sample for it not happening?

certainly happens in the first half in plenty of premier league games, or at least the ones i get to telly clap

 

[Foxholer]

yet you claiming to watch a few games on tv...

Utter Twaddle! Even allowing for the dodgy 'English'!
Evidence or apology required! FWIW 'a lot more' as in post 20403!
If you attempt to misinterpret my post in that way, how can/should anyone believe anything you post!

 

[fundy]

and another idiot added to the list...........

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Only complaints I have seen is from people have made arrangements including hotels or flights but now have to cancel etc and it also will push the game further on down the line. Suspect the manager and players will be glad of the rest

If they supported their local teams they wouldnt be affected ?

 

[Blue in Munich]

Well, that's a truly representative sample then!
Not saying it's wrong; just a huge amount of potential bias!
Do you agree?

You're obviously on the wind up, goodnight. Actually, goodbye.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I don't think fans are too concerned about time wasted until late in games. If they are, then I'm pretty sure they'll make their displeasure known! Keeper time-wasting is specifically mentioned in The Rules! There's probably a bit of leeway given to keepers (whether there should be is a different question) purely because of their 'unique' position.
Re italicised bit...Ref has to be consistent about all decisions. Would/should he do the same (upgrade 'next') for dodgy fouls? Yellow, yes. But not Red imo.

Can you clarify what type of fan youre meaning? Is it the Telly clapper or the match going one because i can catergorically disagree if its the latter.

 

[Foxholer]

You're obviously on the wind up, goodnight. Actually, goodbye.

Admission of defeat then! No probs; bye!

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Klopp finally getting his wish
Can’t think of anyone who has moaned more about fixture congestion,and he’s done it ever since he arrived in England
Absolute ?

That's convenient, though it gives you another excuse for a cheap dig??

 

[Foxholer]

and another idiot <one who disgrees with me> added to the list...........

FTFY! Btw...Phew!

 

[Blue in Munich]

Seen on the club website that we are now required to submit an online form stating our vaccination status or providing evidence of a negative test, and that we are symptom free; anyone else noticed this?

And I wonder if the same applies to travelling fans; if not, I wonder what the point is?

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2...on-for-fans-attending-brighton-home-game---de

 

[Billysboots]

Seen on the club website that we are now required to submit an online form stating our vaccination status or providing evidence of a negative test, and that we are symptom free; anyone else noticed this?

And I wonder if the same applies to travelling fans; if not, I wonder what the point is?

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2...on-for-fans-attending-brighton-home-game---de

Utterly pointless having different rules for home and visiting supporters. Almost as mad as Cardiff and Swansea fans not being able to watch a home game but being able to travel to watch their side play in England.

?

 

[Liverbirdie]

Love that episode
Surely you must be sick of Klopps whining.
He’s become more predictable than Liverpool Phil liking all your posts

Some of it yes, most of it, no.

I like the xmas fixtures, and wish he wouldnt carry on talking about that.

The 12.30 ko's after CL games - totally agree, as did Ole who brought it up first, and look the questioning/moaning worked and isnt happening now.

Did you call Fergie's moaning out, who was probably for most the worst moaner ever along with Mourinho (wonder what they had in common), or do you only look out for our manager?

 

[4LEX]

Time wasting is the biggest bugbear in football after refs/var. But I don't blame the players or the teams; I blame the refs for allowing it so it's on them aswell. If a team is doing it, add on 10 mins plus. Book/send players off. It could be sorted out within a few weeks if teams were punished for it. But no, the refs allow it and hardly add on any time even when theres multiple examples of it. Fake injuries, slow goal kicks, slow subs etc.

The game shouldn't be stopped unless it's serious. Anytime the game is stopped for treatment, the in question player should be made to stay off for 5 minutes. You'd see faking of injuries cut down by 99% right away.

Nothing is better than seeing a team timewasting get done with a late goal

 

[Pin-seeker]

Some of it yes, most of it, no.

I like the xmas fixtures, and wish he wouldnt carry on talking about that.

The 12.30 ko's after CL games - totally agree, as did Ole who brought it up first, and look the questioning/moaning worked and isnt happening now.

Did you call Fergie's moaning out, who was probably for most the worst moaner ever along with Mourinho (wonder what they had in common), or do you only look out for our manager?

Come on Sinbad,Fergie got some right stick from opposition fans over the years.
Liverpool fans are just way more sensitive.
Same if anyone dares to say that a opposition player is better than one of yours.
Just love a drama ?‍?