Foxholer
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So, (collective) state of mind! 'Don't let oppo get a chance to 'come back' if narrowly leading. But no danger of that if up by 4. If down by 4, then saving face is more likely the reason - or simply tactically out-maneuvered.
Foxholer
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Just remember that there's a difference between 'time wasting' and 'a waste of time' Former is a conscious tactic; latter more likely simply the inability to probe the other teams defences/conscious 'positive' tactics simply not working/are being successfully countered.
And it's not 'cheating', imo, to control the game by knocking the ball around between team-mates, in the middle of the field, when near end of game and up by 1. That's definitely 'game management' imo. Onus is on the trailing team to regain the ball!
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fundy
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where did i say passing about yourself is timewasting? im talking about 30 seconds for the keeper to take a goal kick, or switching sides of the goal for the goal kick, swapping players taking a throw in 3 times etc, you know actual timewasting. if youve got the ball on the field you can do what you want with it, up to the other side to come and get it
Foxholer
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We agree!
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
4 replies. 
Firstly, all sides have and will do it but some more than others.
However, it is robbing the fans of action, although the telly clappers may be happy as can go and make a brew at goal kicks.
Refs warning them 4 times, pointing to their watch and only booking a keeper with 10 minutes to go is a "managed" reaction by all refs. If the keeper does it 3-4 times in the first half, book him then and also have a word with the captain if all the other defenders are taking it in turn, with a "next one who does it is booked", and the one after that......
Firstly, all sides have and will do it but some more than others.
However, it is robbing the fans of action, although the telly clappers may be happy as can go and make a brew at goal kicks.
Refs warning them 4 times, pointing to their watch and only booking a keeper with 10 minutes to go is a "managed" reaction by all refs. If the keeper does it 3-4 times in the first half, book him then and also have a word with the captain if all the other defenders are taking it in turn, with a "next one who does it is booked", and the one after that......
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Deleted member 29109
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The Scousers complaining about fixture congestion over Christmas. Then complaining the Boxing Day game is called off! ??
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The Scousers complaining about fixture congestion over Christmas. Then complaining the Boxing Day game is called off! ??
Only complaints I have seen is from people who have made arrangements including hotels or flights but now have to cancel etc and it also will push the game further on down the line. Suspect the manager and players will be glad of the rest
pokerjoke
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Klopp finally getting his wishThe Scousers complaining about fixture congestion over Christmas. Then complaining the Boxing Day game is called off! ??
Can’t think of anyone who has moaned more about fixture congestion,and he’s done it ever since he arrived in England
Absolute ?
Liverbirdie
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Rent free, even when our games are called off.
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Rent free, even when our games are called off.
If you say so. We’re all just amused by the Scousers constantly crying about something. Especially when what they are crying about now is contradictory to what they were previously crying about ?
pokerjoke
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Your manager is a bloody whingebag pure and simple.Rent free, even when our games are called off.
He’s been whining so much lately they’ve actually gave in to him.
Can’t wait to your season ends trophy less.
Blue in Munich
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4 replies.
Firstly, all sides have and will do it but some more than others.
However, it is robbing the fans of action, although the telly clappers may be happy as can go and make a brew at goal kicks.
Refs warning them 4 times, pointing to their watch and only booking a keeper with 10 minutes to go is a "managed" reaction by all refs. If the keeper does it 3-4 times in the first half, book him then and also have a word with the captain if all the other defenders are taking it in turn, with a "next one who does it is booked", and the one after that......
I would say that the top teams don't time waste; they see a game out through game management, but the ball is in play. Others will take an eternity to get the ball back into play. Two very different things in my book.
Bring in a timekeeper; the only teams it will hurt are the time wasters, not the game managers.
Foxholer
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I don't think fans are too concerned about time wasted until late in games. If they are, then I'm pretty sure they'll make their displeasure known! Keeper time-wasting is specifically mentioned in The Rules! There's probably a bit of leeway given to keepers (whether there should be is a different question) purely because of their 'unique' position.
Re italicised bit...Ref has to be consistent about all decisions. Would/should he do the same (upgrade 'next') for dodgy fouls? Yellow, yes. But not Red imo.
clubchamp98
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If the keeper gets yellow for time wasting then does it again he should be sent off. Imo.
That’s consistent and I am sure all others would pay attention in the future.
But the poor standard of refereeing means that just won’t happen.
That’s why a timekeeper is a good idea I think.
nickjdavis
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Unfortunately a timekeeper is not the answer as real fans need to know when the game will actually end so they can leave five minutes early to beat the rush.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
You do realise that many things Jurgen moaned about were also instigated, equally raised or latterly raised by Ole, as well as Pep, Tuchel etc?
Then again you probably didnt, cos you're daft these days and you have a warped mind.
Foxholer
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Unfortunately a timekeeper is not the answer as real fans need to know when the game will actually end so they can leave five minutes early to beat the rush.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Just put a clock in the ground that is controlled by the timekeeper.Unfortunately a timekeeper is not the answer as real fans need to know when the game will actually end so they can leave five minutes early to beat the rush.
So he/ she stops it when the balls out of play and starts it when the ball is back in play.
For those who like to leave early they could play the countdown music five mins from the end
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Just put a clock in the ground that is controlled by the timekeeper.
So he/ she stops it when the balls out of play and starts it when the ball is back in play.
For those who like to leave early they could play the countdown music five mins from the end
thats great until the 12.30 KO is still going at 3pm when the embargo starts haha
Blue in Munich
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You think wrong. Certain teams waste time from the first minute and fans are not happy about the referees doing nothing about it.
