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pauljames87 said:
That's the thing players gaining advantage with play acting is one thing. Bad enough

When a manager starts actively encouraging it in public (not behind closed doors) it's proper poor form

The manager is suppose to discourage it.. publicly anyways .. rather than actively go right go down injured.. no not there.. that won't help

https://twitter.com/x/status/1471233908708630528
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Being totally honest here, surely Arteta should face some kind of charge for what he did? He was caught on camera rolling an injured player onto the pitch to waste time. Surely he should get a fine for that?
 
Orikoru said:
Being totally honest here, surely Arteta should face some kind of charge for what he did? He was caught on camera rolling an injured player onto the pitch to waste time. Surely he should get a fine for that?
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Really is a slam dunk bringing game into disrepute charge and one they should use to make an example. We'll wait and see if the FA see it that way.....

Also, at the time I was utterly amazed West Ham gave the ball back afterwards, Arsenal wouldnt have!!!
 
Orikoru said:
Being totally honest here, surely Arteta should face some kind of charge for what he did? He was caught on camera rolling an injured player onto the pitch to waste time. Surely he should get a fine for that?
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That would take decent and bold decisions from the premier League

I don't think they understand either of them ..

Shame we can't appeal the red either as was two yellows .. neither of them a yellow offence

First an "elbow" on Tierney .. given because the players made a lot of shouting over nothing

Second the "tackle" that I swear Lacazette went down holding his face ..

Refs bought into the gamesmanship and var hasn't corrected it
 
Arteta is correct, a player cannot leave the field of play without permission it is a bookable offence, just lije he cannot reenter the field of play without the Referee’s permission.

So, as much as it looks bad, the onky correct way for any player to be looked after is to be on the pitch and get the Ref to stop play, anytime lost should be added on as injury time, so Arteta is not wasting time, he’s protecting his player.
 
fundy said:
Really is a slam dunk bringing game into disrepute charge and one they should use to make an example. We'll wait and see if the FA see it that way.....

Also, at the time I was utterly amazed West Ham gave the ball back afterwards, Arsenal wouldnt have!!!
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That's the annoying thing the game was won by better football, that first goal, outstanding and the second finish lovely

Its just tarnished by off the field antics from the manager and on the field performance from the ref

Neither should affect the result but just leaves a poor taste

Take nothing away from the quality of football tho

As I said. The fa / premier League are spineless
 
pauldj42 said:
Arteta is correct, a player cannot leave the field of play without permission it is a bookable offence, just lije he cannot reenter the field of play without the Referee’s permission.

So, as much as it looks bad, the onky correct way for any player to be looked after is to be on the pitch and get the Ref to stop play, anytime lost should be added on as injury time, so Arteta is not wasting time, he’s protecting his player.
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Don't be silly, lol.
 
With the Jan window coming up, who would you like your club to be looking to sign?

Villa have just lost Marvellous Nakamba to a knee injury - hes been a rock at CDM since Gerrard came in. Would like to see a CDM come in to replace him . Ive seen us linked with Rangers Kamara for around 10/15 mill. Could work well if he can adapt to the prem quick enough, hes obviously familiar with Gerrards system and fits the gap nicely.
 
pauldj42 said:
Arteta is correct, a player cannot leave the field of play without permission it is a bookable offence, just lije he cannot reenter the field of play without the Referee’s permission.

So, as much as it looks bad, the onky correct way for any player to be looked after is to be on the pitch and get the Ref to stop play, anytime lost should be added on as injury time, so Arteta is not wasting time, he’s protecting his player.
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So he did both then by your book?

How about you back it up with the law? Before calling out someone else.

So he should be booked for leaving and re-entering the pitch without permission by this "law"
 
pauljames87 said:
So he did both then by your book?

How about you back it up with the law? Before calling out someone else.

So he should be booked for leaving and re-entering the pitch without permission by this "law"
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How about you read the links in the twitter post you shared, it shows the law there.
 
Orikoru said:
The one where he deliberately wasted time in the match? Please don't be this guy again. :ROFLMAO:
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How about you show me were I’m wrong?

I agree it looks bad, but if he’d of had treatment off the pitch he couldn’t of reentered without the Refs permission, Arsenal would of been playing 1 man down, Arteta is looking after Arsenal.
 
pauldj42 said:
How about you show me were I’m wrong?

I agree it looks bad, but if he’d of had treatment off the pitch he couldn’t of reentered without the Refs permission, Arsenal would of been playing 1 man down, Arteta is looking after Arsenal.
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If players get treatment on the pitch, do they not have to go off the pitch afterwards anyway? And then can only come on when ref says so.
 
Swango1980 said:
If players get treatment on the pitch, do they not have to go off the pitch afterwards anyway? And then can only come on when ref says so.
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The game is then stopped by the Referee isn’t it? ie, outside the Law for entering or leaving the field without permission.
 
Bdill93 said:
With the Jan window coming up, who would you like your club to be looking to sign?

Villa have just lost Marvellous Nakamba to a knee injury - hes been a rock at CDM since Gerrard came in. Would like to see a CDM come in to replace him . Ive seen us linked with Rangers Kamara for around 10/15 mill. Could work well if he can adapt to the prem quick enough, hes obviously familiar with Gerrards system and fits the gap nicely.
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More worried about the outs than the ins for Arsenal January. Still a lot of deadwood to go and were not going to have that many games in the new year to keep a big squad all happy. That said I expect they will try and get a midfielder if the African Nations goes ahead (with both Partey and Elneny likely to be there)

In a perfect world be would buy the central midfielder/leader weve needed for a decade and also the type of striker that better fits what Arteta is trying to achieve.

Expect Nketiah will sign a pre contract to go somewhere in the summer, Lacazette likely to do so too, Balogun will probably go out on loan (unless we manage to offload Aubameyang). Others that could go if theres any interest include Kolasinac, Cedric, Mari, Chambers, Elneny. Expect Leno may look for regular football somewhere else now too
 
pauldj42 said:
How about you read the links in the twitter post you shared, it shows the law there.
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Cautionable offences A player is cautioned if guilty of:
•  delaying the restart of play •  dissent by word or action
•  entering, re-entering or deliberately leaving the field of play without the referee’s permission

You do know the field of play includes the touch line? And surrounding areas ...

Its not like he's gone down to the dressing room.
 
Bdill93 said:
With the Jan window coming up, who would you like your club to be looking to sign?

Villa have just lost Marvellous Nakamba to a knee injury - hes been a rock at CDM since Gerrard came in. Would like to see a CDM come in to replace him . Ive seen us linked with Rangers Kamara for around 10/15 mill. Could work well if he can adapt to the prem quick enough, hes obviously familiar with Gerrards system and fits the gap nicely.
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Blimey, where to start. Everton need a right back, a left back and a striker. The rest can wait until summer. The striker could be a loan signing as DCL should be back and would usually start but we need someone to help DCL to ease back in and give him cover. Rondon was meant to be that man, it has not come off.

I'd love to give you names but I can't pluck them out. It very much depends on where we stand with FFP as that restricted us during the summer and I don't see how it would have changed. We probably have a buying list A and buying list B depending on this.
 
fundy said:
More worried about the outs than the ins for Arsenal January. Still a lot of deadwood to go and were not going to have that many games in the new year to keep a big squad all happy. That said I expect they will try and get a midfielder if the African Nations goes ahead (with both Partey and Elneny likely to be there)

In a perfect world be would buy the central midfielder/leader weve needed for a decade and also the type of striker that better fits what Arteta is trying to achieve.

Expect Nketiah will sign a pre contract to go somewhere in the summer, Lacazette likely to do so too, Balogun will probably go out on loan (unless we manage to offload Aubameyang). Others that could go if theres any interest include Kolasinac, Cedric, Mari, Chambers, Elneny. Expect Leno may look for regular football somewhere else now too
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That is one hell of a lot of players leaving the club soon!
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Blimey, where to start. Everton need a right back, a left back and a striker. The rest can wait until summer. The striker could be a loan signing as DCL should be back and would usually start but we need someone to help DCL to ease back in and give him cover. Rondon was meant to be that man, it has not come off.

I'd love to give you names but I can't pluck them out. It very much depends on where we stand with FFP as that restricted us during the summer and I don't see how it would have changed. We probably have a buying list A and buying list B depending on this.
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Really saw you pushing higher this year pre-season! Not quite what I expected thus far - but plenty of time to get it right before the season is over
 
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