The Footie Thread

[Deleted member 1740]

Rashford was horrific. I wonder if he has the equivalent of dartitis for darts players, or the yips for golfers. It is like he gets into a dangerous position, and then can't kick a ball. He just lets it roll and then falls over. No effort once he loses ball, just head down.

Mind you, Bruno poor yet again. Need someone like him to control possession, but he just gives it away.

Still, Utd were never going to suddenly be fantastic once Rangnick came in. So at least they got 3 points. It'll be interesting how he deals with today's performance.

Definition of a one season wonder?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Man City penalty - never a penalty.
Liverpool penalty - tangle of legs and a penalty.
Chelsea 2nd penalty - soft but a foul and a penalty.
Villa non penalty - not convinced there was enough in it. If it goes against you you're not happy but if it's your team you're screaming for it.
Man Utd penalty - absolutely no chance that Pukki would've been given it at Old Trafford.

The scream from Ronaldo made it?

 

[ColchesterFC]

The scream from Ronaldo made it?

That's a bit unfair Stu. We all know how painful it is when a mate comes up and puts his arm round your shoulder. We'd all let out a scream in those circumstances. ?

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Just watching Motd and cannot believe my eyes with the penalties awarded in the Chelsea and man city games. Absolute madness.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

That's a bit unfair Stu. We all know how painful it is when a mate comes up and puts his arm round your shoulder. We'd all let out a scream in those circumstances. ?

?For such a big strong well built fella, his balance is awful. Messi would've wriggled out of it.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Time wasting is as much cheating as diving.

No its not.

Diving is a part of the world game unfortunately. Its upto the officials to stamp it out.

Time wasting is really easy to police, somehow our refs make it look impossible.

 

[clubchamp98]

Think the Villa non pen.
Very sneaky push in Matips back by Ings .
But Alison got his hand on the ball.

Var shocking for City pen they had all the angles to see it hit him in the ribs.
Just another one where they won’t go against the ref ,even when it’s an obvious error.

 

[4LEX]

Jon Moss upto his old tricks, too unfit to get himself in good positions. The City pen was harsh but he missed a clear one in the first half. Added on 7 minutes and even though there was a red card and a 3 minute delay blew up after 7 mins 30. The worst of a bad bunch.

 

[clubchamp98]

Sure I seen an Arsenal player block a free kick about 2 yds away against Everton midweek .
Mike Dean clearly said to the Everton player .” It’s your own fault for taking it” when they complained he wasn’t 10 yds away.
But Himenez ( rightly so ) gets a yellow.
So which one is it ? The inconsistency is really poor.

VAR just backing their mates all day today.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Jon Moss upto his old tricks, too unfit to get himself in good positions. The City pen was harsh but he missed a clear one in the first half. Added on 7 minutes and even though there was a red card and a 3 minute delay blew up after 7 mins 30. The worst of a bad bunch.

No, there's worse.

Stuart Attwell, by a considerable distance. I wouldnt let him ref my lads futsal game.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Sure I seen an Arsenal player block a free kick about 2 yds away against Everton midweek .
Mike Dean clearly said to the Everton player .” It’s your own fault for taking it” when they complained he wasn’t 10 yds away.
But Himenez ( rightly so ) gets a yellow.
So which one is it ? The inconsistency is really poor.

VAR just backing their mates all day today.

VAR cannot review Yellow Cards.

So in the Jimenez incident it’s irrelevant, not sure why you think VAR are just backing their mates in this.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

VAR cannot review Yellow Cards.

So in the Jimenez incident it’s irrelevant, not sure why you think VAR are just backing their mates in this.

Its mad how people still cant grasp how VAR works??‍

 

[Blue in Munich]

Its mad how people still cant grasp how VAR works??‍

Or doesn't work as the case may be.

Although in fairness to VAR, some basic anatomy training might help to distinguish the difference between an arm & a ribcage...

 

[ColchesterFC]

Or doesn't work as the case may be.

Although in fairness to VAR, some basic anatomy training might help to distinguish the difference between an arm & a ribcage...

It's been obvious for a while now that they don't know their @r5e from their elbow. ?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Or doesn't work as the case may be.

Although in fairness to VAR, some basic anatomy training might help to distinguish the difference between an arm & a ribcage...

Plenty of issues and areas were VAR could be improved, but, since it was brought in it’s never been in its remit to get involved in yellow cards.

We could focus on were it needs improving if some fans undersood better how it is currently meant to work.

 

[Tashyboy]

Jon Moss upto his old tricks, too unfit to get himself in good positions. The City pen was harsh but he missed a clear one in the first half. Added on 7 minutes and even though there was a red card and a 3 minute delay blew up after 7 mins 30. The worst of a bad bunch.

As a previous season ticket holder. Do I miss going to the games. Not one bit. VAR has killed the game.
Re VAR. Match officials were brought into help officials run the game. They were screaming out for help. It was supposed to help with the cheating, diving, offside. It was supposed to help in stopping horrendous referees making horrendous decisions.
So who policies VAR, horrendous referees. Some of the decisions yesterday were a complete joke including Citys awarded penalty. Yet no mention re the nailed on one until now. Both clear and obvious VAR mistakes. My lad thinks the officials knew at half time they have screwed up and gave a soft penalty “ to level “ it up. How does two wrongs make a right

 

[Deleted member 1740]

For me, the standard of refereeing has become worse than previous seasons since VAR has been introduced.

The idea that a ref would look at a screen and come to the correct decision was a fairytale.

Refereeing has changed to suit VAR. Of that i'm certain.

Its the operators of the tech and not the tech that's the issue.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

As a previous season ticket holder. Do I miss going to the games. Not one bit. VAR has killed the game.
Re VAR. Match officials were brought into help officials run the game. They were screaming out for help. It was supposed to help with the cheating, diving, offside. It was supposed to help in stopping horrendous referees making horrendous decisions.
So who policies VAR, horrendous referees. Some of the decisions yesterday were a complete joke including Citys awarded penalty. Yet no mention re the nailed on one until now. Both clear and obvious VAR mistakes. My lad thinks the officials knew at half time they have screwed up and gave a soft penalty “ to level “ it up. How does two wrongs make a right

Sorry Tashy, they weren't. Thats what sky, the media and ex players where screaming for. It works in Rugby, Tennis and cricket was the line used to sell it.

If i remember correctly refs didnt want technology. Its blatantly obvious referees and liners are now micro managed and theyre led by one the worst refs in english football history. This not raising the flag for offside when they're blatantly off is a joke.

I agree VAR has ruined the game for the Match going fan.

Sorry Tashy what blatant pen in the 1st half are you talking about?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

For me, the standard of refereeing has become worse than previous seasons since VAR has been introduced.

The idea that a ref would look at a screen and come to the correct decision was a fairytale.

Refereeing has changed to suit VAR. Of that i'm certain.

Its the operators of the tech and not the tech that's the issue.

It’s both Stu, the tech isn’t good enough for the offside decision, as has been proved by the fps issue and as you say the operators either compounding or completely missing mistakes.

Also is the lack of understanding by fans, @Tashyboy VAR’s remit is quite clear were it can and cannot get involved, therefore it was only ever going to help with the cheating or diving in certain situations were it was allowed.

It’s here to stay and maybe the current trial in to the semi-autonomous technology will help with the offside.

Also maybe the players/managers and pundits finally stop treating cheating as part of the game and do their bit to improve snd help the Officials.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

It’s both Stu, the tech isn’t good enough for the offside decision, as has been proved by the fps issue and as you say the operators either compounding or completely missing mistakes.

Also is the lack of understanding by fans, @Tashyboy VAR’s remit is quite clear were it can and cannot get involved, therefore it was only ever going to help with the cheating or diving in certain situations were it was allowed.

It’s here to stay and maybe the current trial in to the semi-autonomous technology will help with the offside.

Also maybe the players/managers and pundits finally stop treating cheating as part of the game and do their bit to improve snd help the Officials.

The tech is good enough, its how its used and interpreted.

Problem with offside is, the rule has been changed to suit VAR, armpits and shirt sleeves etc.

It often gets spoken about the miniscule offside's like Richarlisons v Arsenal and how the goals like that should stand.

Yet 2 or 3 seasons ago, those types of goals were being highlighted as offside, it could relegate a team or stop a team from winning a trophy etc were the cries.


No no no no and definitely no.

We are so fixated on trying to get 100% accurate decisions.

When i say we i mean the media.

Remember when VAR was brought in, it was going to stop the controversy??

Where are we now?