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The Footie Thread

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pauljames87 said:
All these updates after teams get done over

Barca in the champs final against arsenal got a perfectly good goal disallowed to bring it back to send the keeper off for a foul
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I think that’s the problem.
They have messed about with so many rules the last couple of seasons that nothing is black and white anymore.
Even the “ experts” disagree
 
Fade and Die said:
Yes I saw that on MOTD2. To be honest Villa we’re lucky not to be down to 8 men at the end as the wrestling tackle on Antonio when we broke for the 4th goal could have easily been a red.
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You only have to look at the weekends cards the One on Saha and Abamayang were identical yet red and yellow.
So even the refs don’t know.
 
adam6177 said:
Just listening to some pundits debating Nuno and spurs.... I think it's grossly unfair to be calling for someone's head after 10 games, especially after what he took over.

I can't help feeling that the fans calling for his head need a reality check. That squad is a 5th/6th place finish quality... Can they really expect more? I think some perspective on where they are and the quality they actually have is needed.

I wonder if they got spoiled a bit by getting to the CL final and making some progression... With one of the best strikers on the planet at his peak at the time.
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You have summed it up pretty well

Spurs reached a CL final and had a couple of good finishes - that allowed them to have delusions of grandeur - they had a manager who had them playing well beyond their abilities - and then they sacked him ?

Spurs sacking Pochettino must be close to being one the worst decisions in a decade

If they sack Santos then I have no idea who they will be able to get - the podcast crew were talking about the likes of Conte and Zidane
 
Liverpoolphil said:
You have summed it up pretty well

Spurs reached a CL final and had a couple of good finishes - that allowed them to have delusions of grandeur - they had a manager who had them playing well beyond their abilities - and then they sacked him ?

Spurs sacking Pochettino must be close to being one the worst decisions in a decade

If they sack Santos then I have no idea who they will be able to get - the podcast crew were talking about the likes of Conte and Zidane
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Conte and Zidane linked to nearly any team that could potentially compete for anything as low as Europa spot. Spurs keep getting labelled by some as a big team, especially in this country. I wonder what people outside the UK think of them?

Surely, compared to our thinking of trams from other countries, they are not Real Madrid or Barcelona, they are a Valencia. They are not a Juve, they are a Fiorentina. Not a PSG, they are a Monaco. Not a Bayern, they are a Wolfsberg.

Apologies for some comparisons, not an avid follower of European leagues. My point is, and agreement with others, do foreign managers just see them as a steady mid table team, every now and then pushing for Champions League, if they play brilliantly and the big teams have a bad season. Therefore, why would the big managers be drawn to Spurs when it is likely a bigger team will come along? Especially with their main man Kane out of form, out of confidence and wanting to leave.

They will probably be best going for an up and coming young manager at a smallish club, showing potential and wishing to climb the ladder. Someone that is good, but not quite on the radar of the biggest teams.
 
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Swango1980 said:
Context and Zidane linked to nearly any team that could potentially compete for anything as low as Europa spot. Spurs keep getting labelled by some as a big team, especially in this country. I wonder what people outside the UK think of them?

Surely, compared to our thinking of trams from other countries, they are not Real Madrid or Barcelona, they are a Valencia. They are not a Juve, they are a Fiorentina. Not a PSG, they are a Monaco. Not a Bayern, they are a Wolfsberg.

Apologies for some comparisons, not an avid follower of European leagues. My point is, and agreement with others, do foreign managers just see them as a steady mid table team, every now and then pushing for Champions League, if they play brilliantly and the big teams have a bad season. Therefore, why would the big managers be drawn to Spurs when it is likely a bigger team will come along? Especially with their main man Kane out of form, out of confidence and wanting to leave.

They will probably be best going for an up and coming young manager at a smallish club, showing potential and wishing to climb the ladder. Someone that is good, but not quite on the radar of the biggest teams.
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Unfortunately it won’t be about football it will be about money.
That’s the PL now.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Unfortunately it won’t be about football it will be about money.
That’s the PL now.
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Yeah, can't argue with that. And I guess the Premier League is much more in the spotlight than other leagues, so probably suits clubs like Spurs in terms of global profile. Perhaps the draw of London is another thing not to be overlooked in some cases.

Though, I still always wonder that if a top coach from the UK (if we had one) had the option to go to a mega rich mid table team in another country, I still like to think they'd more likely be drawn to a big European team if they wanted to manage outside the UK. After all, the big teams can pretty much pay the big salaries. If Pepe was just leaving Bayern now, and he could go to United, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, Newcastle or Everton, and be paid handsomely at any, I doubt he'd choose the last 3.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Stupid after 10 games.
I think the Kane debacle has unsettled the whole club.
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If I was being truely cynical (and remember I am only a casual football follower), I would see Kane as the main reason for this. He was not banging in goals under Nuno and so the hopes to getting in over £100 million in January were disapppearing so a quick decision needed to try and get him firing again and secure that big transfer fee.
 
Both reds in my opinion.

I said a few weeks ago. Villa's only game plan does seem to be to kick (or elbow) the other team around.
I did particularly enjoy someone putting the horrible little s*** McGinn on his back side as he went wading in giving it the big I am.
 
GB72 said:
If I was being truely cynical (and remember I am only a casual football follower), I would see Kane as the main reason for this. He was not banging in goals under Nuno and so the hopes to getting in over £100 million in January were disapppearing so a quick decision needed to try and get him firing again and secure that big transfer fee.
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Probably. Some might argue Nuno is responsible for not getting best out of Kane, although difficult argument to make when it was clear Kane didn't want to be there, and is only there because of his contract. Harder to play with passion and desire compared to being at a club you truly love and want your future to be there.
 
I don't think any of our real problems are Nuno's fault, he inherited a bit of a :poop:show. But, a modicum of improvement probably wasn't too much to ask, yet we have legitimately got worse. The issue now is, he was never the right man in the first place, but we're in exactly the same situation as we were when we were forced to hire him before. Conte is the favourite but I see no reason why he wouldn't tell us to sod off again. I hope it's Fonseca or Potter because the rest of the list makes pretty poor reading - but they both fell through before so it will likely be the same again. If it's Howe then I'm done with football, full stop.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
You have summed it up pretty well

Spurs reached a CL final and had a couple of good finishes - that allowed them to have delusions of grandeur - they had a manager who had them playing well beyond their abilities - and then they sacked him ?

Spurs sacking Pochettino must be close to being one the worst decisions in a decade

If they sack Santos then I have no idea who they will be able to get - the podcast crew were talking about the likes of Conte and Zidane
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No, because if you remember they were, and had, spectacularly unwound at that time. They were leaking goals for fun (Bayern CL game as an example) and most agreed he had to go. Most of his reign was great but he couldn't take or maintain Spurs at the next level (or maybe Spurs very much over achieved).
 
BiMGuy said:
Both reds in my opinion.

I said a few weeks ago. Villa's only game plan does seem to be to kick (or elbow) the other team around.
I did particularly enjoy someone putting the horrible little s*** McGinn on his back side as he went wading in giving it the big I am.
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Brilliant to see Bowen just barge him down.
 
Piece said:
No, because if you remember they were, and had, spectacularly unwound at that time. They were leaking goals for fun (Bayern CL game as an example) and most agreed he had to go. Most of his reign was great but he couldn't take or maintain Spurs at the next level (or maybe Spurs very much over achieved).
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I really believe he was just mentally jaded from getting us overperforming despite minimum investment for several years. He needed a break but you can't really give your manager a sabbatical in top flight football, so we sacked him instead. It's no accident he then had a year off after that.
 
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