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The Footie Thread

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Doon frae Troon said:
Everyone in Scotland is now hoping that England will win.

Imagine the seethe when we say......... aye but the only team you couldnae beat was Scotland. :love:
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Hate to break it to you. But the vast majority of England fans don't consider Scotland to be rivals any more than we would someone like the Ukraine.

It's like when Leeds play Bradford City. The Bradford fans see it as a massive game and that there is some kind of deep seated rivalry. When in reality there is nothing of the sort.

Well done once again for your 0-0 win.see you at the world cup.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Everyone in Scotland is now hoping that England will win.

Imagine the seethe when we say......... aye but the only team you couldnae beat was Scotland. :love:
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If England win the Euros I very much they would give a monkeys about the results in the group stage

I hear that they didn’t show the England match on BBC Scotland - instead put on Wish you were Here repeats
 
BiMGuy said:
Hate to break it to you. But the vast majority of England fans don't consider Scotland to be rivals any more than we would someone like the Ukraine.
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I remember reading, years ago, that the Germans consider our perceived rivalry with them in a similar way. They don't understand why we think it exists. Their big rivalries are with the Dutch and Italians, not us.
Hopefully, they've added us today.
 
RichA said:
I remember reading, years ago, that the Germans consider our perceived rivalry with them in a similar way. They don't understand why we think it exists. Their big rivalries are with the Dutch and Italians, not us.
Hopefully, they've added us today.
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I guess everyone remembers the teams that beat them more than the teams they've beaten. Before yesterday Germany would have seen us as just another team that they typically breeze past I should think.
 
pauljames87 said:
id say if you were to change the entire line up.. the real quality players that you would miss would be pickford. maguire and kane .. not to say their replacements wouldnt do a good job at all but the quality isnt the same level where as mings and stones is there much? i mean both have mistakes in them but can be solid.. midfield mount and henderson for rice and phillips wouldnt be a drop in quality .. sterling whilst our best player its not like sancho and grealish arent equal to him.. plus we already seen the full backs changed
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That’s exactly it maguire and pickford stay … Kane is benched or plays a shorter game , I just think given last nights effort for the Ukrainian side I would look to run them ragged for 50-60minutes
 
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RichA said:
I remember reading, years ago, that the Germans consider our perceived rivalry with them in a similar way. They don't understand why we think it exists. Their big rivalries are with the Dutch and Italians, not us.
Hopefully, they've added us today.
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I am not sure, based on recent history France has the upper hand.
We also have a worse tournament record against East Germany ;-)

Honestly, I don’t really do rivals. I want us to win and if we don’t then I move on. Good luck to the next team. No need to hate in sports.


On club level it’s different. But I can’t really gloat that enemy number 1 has not been promoted back up, enemy number 2 is going down, all in the same season my team is going down as well.


Turns out, in football I am just content. Happy if we win, fine if we don’t.
 
pokerjoke said:
Fancy Sterling to have a good tournament funnily
Pace to burn and pretty good in an England shirt.
I suspect his much published fallout with Pep effected his form for City so I’m expecting a different Sterling in this tournament.
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Looks like someone was right.

Although he hasn’t been on his very top form we would be out right now and getting ready for the Hockey season.
Going back through the posts it’s amazing how many people didn’t even want him in any starting eleven ( ay Slime,clubchamp:).
As someone has just posted ( hindsight) his movement,pace,work rate,strength,creativity etc guarantees his place in the team.
I do admit he’s frustrating at times but if he wins us the tournament who cares.
Could even win the golden boot?
It looks like Gareth has decided to try and keep a clean sheet and rely on Sterling,Kane and another to win us the games.
Really can’t see us not reaching the final now and believe that will be against Belgium.
 
Now that 'we' are in the QF's will the Scots now support England?
To answer this vital question we can deploy the help of the No True Scotsman Fallacy.

Person A: No Scotsman supports England in the Euro's.
Person B: My Uncle Angus is a Scot and he will support England now.
Person A: No true Scotsman supports England in the Euro's.

So there you have it. Some will, most won't.

No true Scotsman - Wikipedia
 
pokerjoke said:
Looks like someone was right.

Although he hasn’t been on his very top form we would be out right now and getting ready for the Hockey season.
Going back through the posts it’s amazing how many people didn’t even want him in any starting eleven ( ay Slime,clubchamp:).
As someone has just posted ( hindsight) his movement,pace,work rate,strength,creativity etc guarantees his place in the team.
I do admit he’s frustrating at times but if he wins us the tournament who cares.
Could even win the golden boot?
It looks like Gareth has decided to try and keep a clean sheet and rely on Sterling,Kane and another to win us the games.
Really can’t see us not reaching the final now and believe that will be against Belgium.
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I stick by what I have written, I don’t see him as the world class player.. my view is we see glimpses and those are good or bad .. it’s too frustrating because of his potential. There comes a time when you look elsewhere so let’s see what Sancho has Saka has been great … Kane is still not doing it either.. a goal here and there does not make up for the lacklustre movement ( which could have led to more goals) Seriously up front we can really experiment and change our approach.. 5 subs allows this and the defence is fine
 
Southgate did it his way in the World Cup, and England got to the semi-finals. Southgate is doing it his way and England are through to the Q/F’s.

I watch some of the other teams and I see players that look stronger, more technical but what is the end result, both in the World Cup and the Euros? They went home before England, the England team managed by Southgate.

Never mind “easy groups/ride,” and avoiding “the group of death.” There aren’t many mug teams in finals anymore. England will never be a Brazil of the ’70’s but under Southgate they are better than a lot of people give them credit for.

C’mon England!
 
Tashyboy said:
In the first half there was a Couple of occasions when the ball broke five or ten yards outside the Germany box and the nearest England player was 30 yards away near the half way line. It was as if the had been coached to not get hit on the counter.
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We did get done on the counter three times but they missed the chances.
 
pokerjoke said:
Looks like someone was right.

Although he hasn’t been on his very top form we would be out right now and getting ready for the Hockey season.
Going back through the posts it’s amazing how many people didn’t even want him in any starting eleven ( ay Slime,clubchamp:).
As someone has just posted ( hindsight) his movement,pace,work rate,strength,creativity etc guarantees his place in the team.
I do admit he’s frustrating at times but if he wins us the tournament who cares.
Could even win the golden boot?
It looks like Gareth has decided to try and keep a clean sheet and rely on Sterling,Kane and another to win us the games.
Really can’t see us not reaching the final now and believe that will be against Belgium.
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Yes but if Sterling wasn’t playing Sancho or someone else given the shirt might be the top scorer.
Kane was lucky to still be on the pitch to score he was dire for 85 mins.
 
BiMGuy said:
Hate to break it to you. But the vast majority of England fans don't consider Scotland to be rivals any more than we would someone like the Ukraine.

It's like when Leeds play Bradford City. The Bradford fans see it as a massive game and that there is some kind of deep seated rivalry. When in reality there is nothing of the sort.

Well done once again for your 0-0 win.see you at the world cup.
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Ah right
I get it
A bit like Germany and England then ;)
 
BiMGuy said:
Hate to break it to you. But the vast majority of England fans don't consider Scotland to be rivals any more than we would someone like the Ukraine.

It's like when Leeds play Bradford City. The Bradford fans see it as a massive game and that there is some kind of deep seated rivalry. When in reality there is nothing of the sort.

Well done once again for your 0-0 win.see you at the world cup.
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England v Scotland will always be a big rivalry game for those who know & understand the game.
Leeds v ManU/Liverpool etc is only a 'rivalry game' to the LUFC fans as their real rivals are Huddersfield/Barnsley etc.
Under Bielsa they've become an exciting & attractive side rather than the 'cloggers' of old..... just enjoy that.
 
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