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The Footie Thread

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I am in two minds.
The Ukraine player was the one late the ball had already gone.
He should have pulled out.
If the defender lets that go his manager will want to know why.
That’s where the ball is and he got the ball.
But the reply shows a bad injury but can you send someone off because he’s injured and you have quite clearly won the ball.

Seems to have split opinion on Twitter. Gary Lineker and Iain Carter, among others, both saying never a red card, but equally ,many others saying definite red card. It's one of those that you have to ask, is it reckless or is it just an unfortunate coming together than happens during a football match?
 
Benitez applied for it, so you’d hope he wants it for the right reason, us fans are fickle, good results on the oitch and the noises will die down, similar position to Southgate for me now?

I appreciatte and respect him for what he’s done charity wise and for the Hillsborough families, but he also caused more animosity, imo, between Blues and reds than any other lpool manager in my lifetime.
He still has a house on the Wirral.
I think he will do a good job .
But he has said things the Everton ( small club ) won’t forgive.
 
Seems to have split opinion on Twitter. Gary Lineker and Iain Carter, among others, both saying never a red card, but equally ,many others saying definite red card. It's one of those that you have to ask, is it reckless or is it just an unfortunate coming together than happens during a football match?
Maybe old school defenders like me .
And not so old school Jessie’s like after it ceased being a mans game!
 
Did he actually follow through? He was lying on his backside when the Ukranian player ran into his outstretched leg.

He definitely followed through after clearing the ball - he had no option as it was a natural movement. It was just unfortunate that the Ukrainian player ran into his follow through.
 
He definitely followed through after clearing the ball - he had no option as it was a natural movement. It was just unfortunate that the Ukrainian player ran into his follow through.

you cant actually kick the ball and your foot stop instantly, there has to be some degree of follow through, boiling down to how much is going to be permitted before being deemed out of control, and its getting less by the day
 
Did he actually follow through? He was lying on his backside when the Ukranian player ran into his outstretched leg.
That sounds like an excuse. Rather like on the car insurance claim form. "The tree just came out and hit my car sir". ?

I have only seen the incident once though.
 
A bit of a late comer to the thread this evening, and I’ve not had chance to catch up with it all, so my honest assessment is not tainted by other comments.

A solid performance, a thoroughly deserved win, but I still feel slightly underwhelmed. There is so much more to come from this England side, and it was notable that the first goal, at least, was a result of us moving the ball quickly.

I heard the distinction being made this evening between Southgate being negative and conservative. Perhaps I’ve been a little harsh in my views, and he deserves more credit than an armchair England fan like me is prepared to give him. But a 2-0 scoreline in that game actually doesn’t do England’s superiority justice.

And it’s THAT which concerns me. I would hate to see us not make such superiority count in the latter stages of this tournament when we have the talent to put such a game well and truly to bed.
 
you cant actually kick the ball and your foot stop instantly, there has to be some degree of follow through, boiling down to how much is going to be permitted before being deemed out of control, and its getting less by the day

I agree. With the ball where it was, his foot had to be high to be able to clear it. It was unfortunate that his "follow through" ended up hitting the Ukraine player where it did.
 
Full credit to Pickford, Maguire, Stones, Philips, Rice and Saka. Special big up to Sterling who hasn't done anything bar a few tap ins but tonight he was the best player on the park by a mile.

Pretty average performance and Germany perhaps even shaded the game but missed the key chances and we took ours. Should walk Ukraine and Denmark/Czechs :sneaky:
 
He definitely followed through after clearing the ball - he had no option as it was a natural movement. It was just unfortunate that the Ukrainian player ran into his follow through.

Not for me, he was falling back & his leg was at full stretch; all the momentum came from the Ukranian player running into him. I think the referee got the decision right in real time.
 
A bit of a late comer to the thread this evening, and I’ve not had chance to catch up with it all, so my honest assessment is not tainted by other comments.

A solid performance, a thoroughly deserved win, but I still feel slightly underwhelmed. There is so much more to come from this England side, and it was notable that the first goal, at least, was a result of us moving the ball quickly.

I heard the distinction being made this evening between Southgate being negative and conservative. Perhaps I’ve been a little harsh in my views, and he deserves more credit than an armchair England fan like me is prepared to give him. But a 2-0 scoreline in that game actually doesn’t do England’s superiority justice.

And it’s THAT which concerns me. I would hate to see us not make such superiority count in the latter stages of this tournament when we have the talent to put such a game well and truly to bed.

Ditto to all that.

about a hundred pages back I joked Southgate would play 8-1-1. I was one defensive player out. It’s always a good day when we beat the German, but this team is not lifting me at the moment.
 
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