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[Tashyboy]

So what's it going to be when he plays 5 at the back with 2 holding midfielders?

Do we have 5 decent defenders now Dier is not going ??

 

[Orikoru]

So what's it going to be when he plays 5 at the back with 2 holding midfielders?

Sad but I'm pretty sure that will be the case. I feel like it'll Walker-Maguire-Stones, with Trippier right wing back and maybe Shaw on the left. Rice and Henderson in the middle with Mount, and then Kane and Sterling front two. Wouldn't be my choice at all but I wouldn't be surprised if he does that.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

How each defender Gareth Southgate picked has performed this season:

 

[Orikoru]

How each defender Gareth Southgate picked has performed this season:
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I don't really see the point of including wing backs with the centre backs. I put something together on the centre backs alone - left Ben White off since it only let me put 5 players and I feel he'll be the first cut anyway.



This to me suggests Coady should be the next one who doesn't make it (if Maguire is fit), since he isn't really close to leading in any category. Godfrey should be fairly comfortable in a back three as well, since he's played full back as much as he has centre back.

 

[Beezerk]

Sad but I'm pretty sure that will be the case. I feel like it'll Walker-Maguire-Stones, with Trippier right wing back and maybe Shaw on the left. Rice and Henderson in the middle with Mount, and then Kane and Sterling front two. Wouldn't be my choice at all but I wouldn't be surprised if he does that.

No Foden?
Sterling should he nowhere near the starting 11 imo.

 

[Bdill93]

I don't really see the point of including wing backs with the centre backs. I put something together on the centre backs alone - left Ben White off since it only let me put 5 players and I feel he'll be the first cut anyway.

View attachment 36791

This to me suggests Coady should be the next one who doesn't make it (if Maguire is fit), since he isn't really close to leading in any category. Godfrey should be fairly comfortable in a back three as well, since he's played full back as much as he has centre back.

Makes Mings look half decent!

 

[Orikoru]

No Foden?
Sterling should he nowhere near the starting 11 imo.

I said it wouldn't be my choice! I think my preferred line-up would be quite different to Southgate's. I'd be playing something like this:

D.Hendo
Trent - Maguire - Stones - Shaw
J.Hendo - Mount
Sterling - Foden - Grealish
Kane​

Rice in for Mount against the best teams for more defensive cover. Or in for J.Hendo if he's not fit. I would start Sterling the first game, but if he's poor you have Rashford or Sancho to take his place.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I don't really see the point of including wing backs with the centre backs. I put something together on the centre backs alone - left Ben White off since it only let me put 5 players and I feel he'll be the first cut anyway.

View attachment 36791

This to me suggests Coady should be the next one who doesn't make it (if Maguire is fit), since he isn't really close to leading in any category. Godfrey should be fairly comfortable in a back three as well, since he's played full back as much as he has centre back.

Unfortunately we’re back to how we see Southgate setting up, regardless of 4 or 5 at the back the first name for me is still TAA, the other positions we have a few more options, but none at his level.

 

[Orikoru]

Makes Mings look half decent!

In fairness, he bosses the clearances as he is a bit of a hoof merchant. It's also impacted by the club's ethos I suppose, not many clearances for Stones for example, but he'll be instructed to keep possession rather than hoof it out. Mings obviously wins a lot of aerial duels as well since he's about 7 foot 2.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I just hope Jordan Henderson is fit, fully fit he’d start every game. Don’t like the idea of taking players not fully recovered from a long lay off.

 

[Bdill93]

In fairness, he bosses the clearances as he is a bit of a hoof merchant. It's also impacted by the club's ethos I suppose, not many clearances for Stones for example, but he'll be instructed to keep possession rather than hoof it out. Mings obviously wins a lot of aerial duels as well since he's about 7 foot 2.

Half those hoofs are trying to play a hero ball.... probably just dont pay off and go down as a clearance

 

[Beezerk]

I said it wouldn't be my choice! I think my preferred line-up would be quite different to Southgate's. I'd be playing something like this:

D.Hendo
Trent - Maguire - Stones - Shaw
Mount - J.Hendo
Sterling - Foden - Grealish
Kane​

Rice in for Mount against the best teams for more defensive cover. Or in for J.Hendo if he's not fit. I would start Sterling the first game, but if he's poor you have Rashford or Sancho to take his place.

Rashford or Sancho over Sterling all day for me. Sterling cuts inside every time he gets the ball which has been sussed by opposition defenders now.

 

[fundy]

I don't really see the point of including wing backs with the centre backs. I put something together on the centre backs alone - left Ben White off since it only let me put 5 players and I feel he'll be the first cut anyway.

View attachment 36791

This to me suggests Coady should be the next one who doesn't make it (if Maguire is fit), since he isn't really close to leading in any category. Godfrey should be fairly comfortable in a back three as well, since he's played full back as much as he has centre back.

Big data move over, theres a new analyst in town

 

[Orikoru]

Rashford or Sancho over Sterling all day for me. Sterling cuts inside every time he gets the ball which has been sussed by opposition defenders now.

I think he's top drawer when on form, with his movement, it's just the last three months he hasn't been at his best. As I say, at least that's an area where we do have options.

 

[fundy]

Sterling be nowhere near the first xi for me, but fully expect him to start most of the games

Has to be a big worry that a lot of our players wont fit into the structure Southgate wants to use (now where have I seen this lately.......)

 

[Liverbirdie]

Suicide.
To win we need to score goals..

5 at the back plus 2 x holders, could be, but not necessarily 4 at the back with 2 x holders.

A 4-2-3-1 with 4 offensive players, plus attacking full-backs could be very attack minded.

A team with TAA, Chilwell, Kane, Sterling, Sancho and ,say Foden, in it would be very hard to stop, but also has a solid base. Like everything else, if you have the personnel and ethos to suit, can work very well.

 

[fundy]

5 at the back plus 2 x holders, could be, but not necessarily 4 at the back with 2 x holders.

A 4-2-3-1 with 4 offensive players, plus attacking full-backs could be very attack minded.

A team with TAA, Chilwell, Kane, Sterling, Sancho and ,say Foden, in it would be very hard to stop, but also has a solid base. Like everything else, if you have the personnel and ethos to suit, can work very well.

not a cat in hells chance he picks a back 4 with TAA and Chilwell!!!!

 

[clubchamp98]

5 at the back plus 2 x holders, could be, but not necessarily 4 at the back with 2 x holders.

A 4-2-3-1 with 4 offensive players, plus attacking full-backs could be very attack minded.

A team with TAA, Chilwell, Kane, Sterling, Sancho and ,say Foden, in it would be very hard to stop, but also has a solid base. Like everything else, if you have the personnel and ethos to suit, can work very well.

Yes I think most people who don’t like Trent as a defender don’t take into account a lot of teams just don’t come out against Liverpool.
This leaves his defending “ stats” very skewed.
As he spends most of his time in the ops half.

The biggest threat from the England young lads is going forward.
We must use them ,even if it dosnt work this time they will gain vital experience for the World Cup.

Stats for club football really depends what team you are playing for.
I would take Wan Bissaka though to cover any team playing a winger and having a go at us down the left .

 

[clubchamp98]

not a cat in hells chance he picks a back 4 with TAA and Chilwell!!!!

Two of the top four teams in the PL play this way though.
What we have been doing hasn’t won anything since 66.

if we had Pep as manager I would think we had a great chance.
Southgate goes out not to get beat that’s a different mindset imo.

 

[fundy]

Two of the top four teams in the PL play this way though.
What we have been doing hasn’t won anything since 66.

Dont disagree, but im not picking the side Southgate is