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Pointless these comparison debates, they always deteriorate in to tribalism, petty comments and no one ever changes their mind.
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True plus city only team to ever get over 100 premier League points so clearly the best lol
Kellfire
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West Ham are the only English league team to win the World Cup so clearly they’re the best ever...
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Don't give me that tosh lol takes 11 men team effort
Just because 3 of them were ours doesn't mean we did diddly squat
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It’s not “ridiculous” at all - it’s a defined criteria being used - Premier League
I already included the 99 team ?
Their achievements over the season were outstanding and will prob never be matched and will prob go down as the Greatest Season Just looking in at the Premier League then yes I would include Liverpool last season as it was a season where record were broken
It’s very hard to judge but i think going on ability wise and the way they played plus results it would be the City 100 points plus one followed by Liverpool last year
Kellfire
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And there’s the inevitable Liverpool inclusion.It’s not “ridiculous” at all - it’s a defined criteria being used - Premier League
I already included the 99 team ?
Just looking in at the Premier League then yes I would include Liverpool last season as it was a season where record were broken
It’s very hard to judge but i think going on ability wise and the way they played plus results it would be the City 100 points plus one followed by Liverpool last year
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Thought last season didn't really count because it changed rules mid season to Include 5 subs and drinks breaks
Basically different game
Best we wipe it from the records for fairness
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What’s wrong with including a team that had the biggest winning margin in the history of Prem ? Ability wise , the way they played surely even you can see that
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Biggest title-winning margin: 19 points, 2017–18; Manchester City (100 points) over Manchester United (81 points)
I mean second best at 18 is impressive but who remembers second place
Kellfire
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There are so many caveats behind last season and I’m sure you accept that.
GB72
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Having listened to a few of the debates on this, I have always understood the greatest 'Premier League Team' to be the greatest team of the Premier League era rather than basing the opinion just on their performance in the Premier League itself. Helps narrow the debate to the younger audiences that people are looking for rather than filling them with arguments about a bygone era that less people know much about or appreciate.
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I imagine you saw a lot of the 1968 team!?
Orikoru
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Personally I think the greatest Premier League side was Chelsea 2004/05. Only lost once - ok comparable to a lot of other teams. But they only conceded 15 league goals in an entire season. That is absolutely ridiculous. This season Man City have the best defensive record by a big margin, and they have conceded 15 goals already. Considering how defensive standards seem to have plummeted in the last decade, I don't think we'll ever again see a team with a defensive record that good. And 95 points was the record for a long time, so it's not as if they drew a lot of games, they were still going and winning them.
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Caveats ? Sorry but what caveats that diminish a teams ability and the way they played. Even with Covid and lockdown the league was pretty much won was it not ? If anything lockdown may well have stopped the team going past Citys point record.
Orikoru
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I imagine his comment is based on the relative fitness levels of the footballers in different eras, which I think makes it a fair point. By the middle of the second half a modern day side would be running rings round them.
Kellfire
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It’s just a generation thing. Fitness and tactical awareness alone would see them through with ease.
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But by that time the '68 team would be 6-0 up against the current defence.
The old team with access to modern fitness training would murder the current lot.?
Actually, who knows?
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Fitness has certainly improved I grant you.
Tactical awareness is a completely different issue and is probably the subject of more BS than anything else in the modern game.
Formations don't win games players do.
Orikoru
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I don't agree with the first comment, as the modern defenders may appear useless in today's game, but compared to the defender of that era their pace and fitness would be ahead. Perhaps the '68 team would nab one or two goals in the first half, but in the second half when fitness starts to tell, the modern day side would nab 4 or 5 goals back. Obviously we're just being hypothetical though. The old side with new fitness training makes them a different team entirely so not really the same comparison.
Kellfire
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Harry Maguire would probably beat Best for pace. ?I don't agree with the first comment, as the modern defenders may appear useless in today's game, but compared to the defender of that era their pace and fitness would be ahead. Perhaps the '68 team would nab one or two goals in the first half, but in the second half when fitness starts to tell, the modern day side would nab 4 or 5 goals back. Obviously we're just being hypothetical though. The old side with new fitness training makes them a different team entirely so not really the same comparison.
