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fundy said:
Matt Ryan on loan as back up keeper seems a decent option to allow Runarsson out on loan to get some much needed game time
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Always thought Ryan was a good keeper. I was surprised he lost his place at Brighton, but supposedly he's been off form this year.
 
Orikoru said:
Always thought Ryan was a good keeper. I was surprised he lost his place at Brighton, but supposedly he's been off form this year.
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Had a bad start to the season and gone from one of their best players to not in the squad. One things for sure Id rather have him than Runarsson in the nets if Leno gets injured. Hopefully a new challenge will get him going again
 
Orikoru said:
Certainly not writing them off, they just look tired in attack, while City are in form and must be favourites now. People always say it's difficult to defend a title - to maintain the same levels and hunger, I can understand it's difficult.

Talking about games repeating themselves, I've had the same experience watching Spurs. Our issue is trying to sit on a 1-0 lead rather than getting a second that would actually make it comfortable though.
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Yes they do look tired, they’ve been at it for 3 seasons. They’re not machines.

We all know retaining a title is the most difficult thing to do, its been seen many times and will continue to. I wouldn’t question their hunger or effort.

We’ve been dealt a huge blow losing our only 3 experienced CB‘s for large parts of the season. The fullbacks now have to be more defensive minded, the midfield is weaker and the strikers are out of form. The whole dynamic of the team is weakened.

Like I said earlier, not improving the squad in previous summers has cost us and selling to buy is proving its not a sustainable model.
 
fundy said:
The difference for me is slightly semantics but Id say they are taking lots of shots, not necessarily creating good chances.

If you look at xG last night and take out the Origi chance, the rest of the shots were 20/1 chances and thats been similar in recent games (compared to the Palace game where they scored pretty much every chance)
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In recent games we’ve not been shooting enough, favouring another pass or cross into the box.

The way to beat that low block is to pass quickly and move the ball around/in between the lines. Get the teams turned around and going back to their goal. Playing it in front of them suits them. Our passing and moving is and has been too slow and generally piss poor.
 
Stuart_C said:
Plenty of Kneejerk and bedwetting reactions after last night on SM I see.

Yes there's issues, it's ball breaking watching them do the same thing time after time all through 5 games. The last 5 games have been a carbon copy of each other.

6pts behind isn't very much as we've seen this season, few wins and you're back in the mix.

It's times like this is when the weakness of the squad bites you on the backside. Selling to buy doesn't work.
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Just to cheer you up Stu, looks like KDB is missing for the Liverpool and Spurs game ?
 
Tashyboy said:
Just to cheer you up Stu, looks like KDB is missing for the Liverpool and Spurs game ?
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The city game is miles away from my thoughts Tashy.

Doesn't matter though, you'll be bringing another £50m world class player into replace him.
 
Stuart_C said:
In recent games we’ve not been shooting enough, favouring another pass or cross into the box.

The way to beat that low block is to pass quickly and move the ball around/in between the lines. Get the teams turned around and going back to their goal. Playing it in front of them suits them. Our passing and moving is and has been too slow and generally piss poor.
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That's exactly right. I look at Liverpool now and considering their injury list, they are still playing well. It's the decision making in the final third that costs them. It used to be natural and second nature, but currently it's like City when they were struggling - too many touches, not enough one-touch. Klopp said as much post-match. I don't think you can blame tiredness - it's confidence in my eyes. Get the natural flow back and it will they will be right back at it.
 
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Stuart_C said:
We all know retaining a title is the most difficult thing to do, its been seen many times and will continue to.
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???? Liverpool won't be trying to retain a title again for a very long time. You and LiverpoolPhil have put us through enough.........????
 
Stuart_C said:
Yes they do look tired, they’ve been at it for 3 seasons. They’re not machines.

We all know retaining a title is the most difficult thing to do, its been seen many times and will continue to. I wouldn’t question their hunger or effort.

We’ve been dealt a huge blow losing our only 3 experienced CB‘s for large parts of the season. The fullbacks now have to be more defensive minded, the midfield is weaker and the strikers are out of form. The whole dynamic of the team is weakened.

Like I said earlier, not improving the squad in previous summers has cost us and selling to buy is proving its not a sustainable model.
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Yeah, I'd agree it comes down to squad management. Everyone could see you didn't have enough centre back cover. And the front three are tired because Klopp overplayed them - due to lack of decent back-ups. You did bring in Jota and you've been unlucky with his injury as he started well. But these things need to be planned for. City for example clearly had the same issue with lack of centre backs, but this season they bring in Dias and they're solid again.
 
Orikoru said:
Yeah, I'd agree it comes down to squad management. Everyone could see you didn't have enough centre back cover. And the front three are tired because Klopp overplayed them - due to lack of decent back-ups. You did bring in Jota and you've been unlucky with his injury as he started well. But these things need to be planned for. City for example clearly had the same issue with lack of centre backs, but this season they bring in Dias and they're solid again.
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He's been let down by the people above him, for 2 or 3 seasons now. I refer back to my comment.

Selling to buy is not sustainable.
 
Stuart_C said:
Get the teams turned around and going back to their goal. .
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But you cant do that when teams are already sat in deep and there is no space behind.

Maybe relaxing the constant "press" could open up a bit of freedom for the opposition to play a bit, lull them into a bit of adventure and that might create the space required.

Still....I'm just disappointed that Burnley's victory now makes Newcastle's draw the other week look like a mediocre result!! :D
 
Stuart_C said:
He's been let down by the people above him, for 2 or 3 seasons now. I refer back to my comment.

Selling to buy is not sustainable.
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That’s not fair Stu

Every club has to work with a budget - our recruitment has been outstanding, we don’t have bundles of money to spend and nothing has changed. Players have been bought when the manager needs them and it’s not a “sell to buy” - if a player wants to go then he is replaced. Even more so when the club works under a self sustaining model. Klopp hasn’t been let down by the owners .
 
Liverpoolphil said:
That’s not fair Stu

Every club has to work with a budget - our recruitment has been outstanding, we don’t have bundles of money to spend and nothing has changed. Players have been bought when the manager needs them and it’s not a “sell to buy” - if a player wants to go then he is replaced. Even more so when the club works under a self sustaining model. Klopp hasn’t been let down by the owners .
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It is fair Phil.

Our recruitment has been outstanding but we also went 3or4 windows without improving that squad. We won the European Cup then never strengthed. Everyone else did. That is were he has been let down.

Its blatantly obvious to every man and his dog we need at least 1 CB, to replace Lovren. Since November we’ve needed 2 CB’s. not wanted. Needed. No arguments.

By the sounds of it we‘re not bringing in a CB this window neither.

*Direct quote from today’s presser.

Klopp on transfers (again suggesting a frustration)

"Of course somebody else is making the decisions - it was always like this and I cannot change that. I make recommendations, but I cannot spend the money."
 
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