The Footie Thread

[Deleted member 15344]

It’s wasn’t really a shock - been very flat since the Palace win, players off form , some just look like they are running on empty even though they have just had a week break. They are in a proper rut at the moment and need something - TAA clearly needs a rest he is spent at the moment. It’s a strange old season and long way to go.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Just can’t miss your chances in games like that.
Playing with makeshift CB wasn’t the problem imo .

To be honest I think that playing with makeshift centre backs has been your biggest problem all season. Not because of how the stand ins have performed in defence but because it's taken Fabinho and Henderson out of your midfield.

 

[hairball_89]

Just can’t miss your chances in games like that.
Playing with makeshift CB wasn’t the problem imo .

Hasn't been the problem for weeks. Score one or 2 and the clean sheets (almost) every game wouldn't be too bad at all!

 

[Tashyboy]

Are you writing Liverpool off as title contenders already and suggesting that they might struggle for top 4?

Anything is possible this season.

 

[Tashyboy]

To be honest I think that playing with makeshift centre backs has been your biggest problem all season. Not because of how the stand ins have performed in defence but because it's taken Fabinho and Henderson out of your midfield.

It’s not just that they link the midfield with attack, but as City have with Rodri and Gundoghan. They protect what was an iffy defence.

 

[hairball_89]

And just for a laugh, I had a look at the comments on the Liverpool facebook page. My favourite...!

 

[Deleted member 1147]

So, Burnley beat Liverpool, the reigning champions. I assume that means we are now the best team in the land ?

 

[clubchamp98]

To be honest I think that playing with makeshift centre backs has been your biggest problem all season. Not because of how the stand ins have performed in defence but because it's taken Fabinho and Henderson out of your midfield.

We have had 90 efforts on goal and scored one ( sky reporter asked Klopp)
So imo the missing midfield isn’t the problem it’s the finishing.
Any team would miss those players but it’s up front where not preforming.
If you score your goals it takes the pressure off the rest of the team.

 

[Reemul]

We have had 90 efforts on goal and scored one ( sky reporter asked Klopp)
So imo the missing midfield isn’t the problem it’s the finishing.
Any team would miss those players but it’s up front where not preforming.
If you score your goals it takes the pressure off the rest of the team.

I watched the game outside of Donkey Divock missing that sitter not a lot of clear cut chances, the midfield playing in defence has a knock on effect, then your midfield is struggling to create clear cut chances, it does not matter how good your forward line is without a decent spine behind and you don't have that at the moment. You are all over the place at the back and midfield and if you want to challenge you need to get something sorted.

It was a dreadful game to watch and I always felt Burnley might nick one.

 

[clubchamp98]

I watched the game outside of Donkey Divock missing that sitter not a lot of clear cut chances, the midfield playing in defence has a knock on effect, then your midfield is struggling to create clear cut chances, it does not matter how good your forward line is without a decent spine behind and you don't have that at the moment. You are all over the place at the back and midfield and if you want to challenge you need to get something sorted.

It was a dreadful game to watch and I always felt Burnley might nick one.

Yes I do see that .
We have young CBS but he’s not playing them regularly and hasn’t bought anyone
But that dosnt excuse the finishing imo.
Not just tonight we have missed some shocking sitters.
You can’t win games if you don’t score goals.
Teams have worked out how to play us it’s not rocket science.

 

[Junior]

It’s wasn’t really a shock - been very flat since the Palace win, players off form , some just look like they are running on empty even though they have just had a week break. They are in a proper rut at the moment and need something - TAA clearly needs a rest he is spent at the moment. It’s a strange old season and long way to go.

You're still creating chances.....This is typical Liverpool, give the rest of us a glimmer of hope then will prob go unbeaten for the rest of the season , win the league and remain unbearable

 

[Tashyboy]

Yes I do see that .
We have young CBS but he’s not playing them regularly and hasn’t bought anyone
But that dosnt excuse the finishing imo.
Not just tonight we have missed some shocking sitters.
You can’t win games if you don’t score goals.
Teams have worked out how to play us it’s not rocket science.

There can be lots of formation analysis, but probably the simplest is, they do not look balanced.

 

[Orikoru]

Yes I do see that .
We have young CBS but he’s not playing them regularly and hasn’t bought anyone
But that dosnt excuse the finishing imo.
Not just tonight we have missed some shocking sitters.
You can’t win games if you don’t score goals.
Teams have worked out how to play us it’s not rocket science.

The problem is Salah and Mane are knackered. He's played them every single bloody game for 3 years. Resting them for 30 mins here and there isn't enough. And when your wingers are not scoring you need your actual number 9 to pick up the slack - but Firmino has never been good enough in front of goal in my opinion. He's a nice team player and all the rest of it but he never scores enough goals. If Jota was fit I reckoned he'd be keeping Firmino on the bench by now. Other than him the back-up players are nowhere near good enough. Shaqiri and Origi are half decent mid-table players and no more than that.

 

[Liverbirdie]

So, Burnley beat Liverpool, the reigning champions. I assume that means we are now the best team in the land ?

In the world, we're reigning world club champions still.

It worked for Scotland in 1966, so why not?

 

[Deleted member 1147]

In the world, we're reigning world club champions still.

It worked for Scotland in 1966, so why not?

Marvellous

 

[clubchamp98]

The problem is Salah and Mane are knackered. He's played them every single bloody game for 3 years. Resting them for 30 mins here and there isn't enough. And when your wingers are not scoring you need your actual number 9 to pick up the slack - but Firmino has never been good enough in front of goal in my opinion. He's a nice team player and all the rest of it but he never scores enough goals. If Jota was fit I reckoned he'd be keeping Firmino on the bench by now. Other than him the back-up players are nowhere near good enough. Shaqiri and Origi are half decent mid-table players and no more than that.

Totally agree.
Firmino is not a good finisher.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Plenty of Kneejerk and bedwetting reactions after last night on SM I see.

Yes there's issues, it's ball breaking watching them do the same thing time after time all through 5 games. The last 5 games have been a carbon copy of each other.

6pts behind isn't very much as we've seen this season, few wins and you're back in the mix.

It's times like this is when the weakness of the squad bites you on the backside. Selling to buy doesn't work.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

And just for a laugh, I had a look at the comments on the Liverpool facebook page. My favourite...!

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This takes "bantz" to a new level.

 

[Orikoru]

Plenty of Kneejerk and bedwetting reactions after last night on SM I see.

Yes there's issues, it's ball breaking watching them do the same thing time after time all through 5 games. The last 5 games have been a carbon copy of each other.

6pts behind isn't very much as we've seen this season, few wins and you're back in the mix.

It's times like this is when the weakness of the squad bites you on the backside. Selling to buy doesn't work.

Certainly not writing them off, they just look tired in attack, while City are in form and must be favourites now. People always say it's difficult to defend a title - to maintain the same levels and hunger, I can understand it's difficult.

Talking about games repeating themselves, I've had the same experience watching Spurs. Our issue is trying to sit on a 1-0 lead rather than getting a second that would actually make it comfortable though.

 

[fundy]

You're still creating chances.....This is typical Liverpool, give the rest of us a glimmer of hope then will prob go unbeaten for the rest of the season , win the league and remain unbearable

The difference for me is slightly semantics but Id say they are taking lots of shots, not necessarily creating good chances.

If you look at xG last night and take out the Origi chance, the rest of the shots were 20/1 chances and thats been similar in recent games (compared to the Palace game where they scored pretty much every chance)