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Papas1982 said:
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i think being home grown for arguably the biggest club in England is a little different than Saints or Everton.

Players generally leave for two reasons if they’re decent. Money or prizes. He has as much chance of those at UTD as most places. Also, I can’t see what other super club would want him, or pay a fee that would tempt utd.
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Players move at the drop of a hat, same as clubs selling. If Rashford doesn't get enough game time he will be off, if his agent doesn't think he is getting enough money he will be off, if Utd keep struggling to either qualify or go far in the CL he will be off. You can make similar arguments for clubs selling a player.

These comments are cliched and thrown out by players way too often to have meaning any more.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
We have seen the Covid bubbles aren't secure but why not. Rugby seems to be coping relatively well (with bigger playing squads) but if we halt the footie season now with so much other footie how does it get finished. I can't seeing anyone in power or with a vested interest wanting a void season
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Some PL players are very arrogant think they can do as they like.

Contact on the pitch is inevitable but all the hand shaking before and after the game is unnecessary and should be banned.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Players move at the drop of a hat, same as clubs selling. If Rashford doesn't get enough game time he will be off, if his agent doesn't think he is getting enough money he will be off, if Utd keep struggling to either qualify or go far in the CL he will be off. You can make similar arguments for clubs selling a player.

These comments are cliched and thrown out by players way too often to have meaning any more.
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I’m not so sure. Not sure many Utd home grown players that actually get into the team and become regulars have left of their own accord too often. Certainly not in their peak.

The pay won’t be an issue, they pay well.
Re success, Kane is at Spurs still....... Also, are city or Liverpool gonna come in for him? As Utd are still as likely to win something as anyone else in england and I don’t see many European teams being able to afford him.
Re playing time, if he isn’t getting that, it’ll be because he’s not good enough for the team, so not really his choice such, more his hand forced.

I think as a fan of a less successful team I’m as cynical as you when we sign a player who spits that’s nonsense, but id imagine most players at their local clubs would stay if they won trophies and paid as well as Utd had done for the last 20 Years.
 
Papas1982 said:
I’m not so sure. Not sure many Utd home grown players that actually get into the team and become regulars have left of their own accord too often. Certainly not in their peak.

The pay won’t be an issue, they pay well.
Re success, Kane is at Spurs still....... Also, are city or Liverpool gonna come in for him? As Utd are still as likely to win something as anyone else in england and I don’t see many European teams being able to afford him.
Re playing time, if he isn’t getting that, it’ll be because he’s not good enough for the team, so not really his choice such, more his hand forced.

I think as a fan of a less successful team I’m as cynical as you when we sign a player who spits that’s nonsense, but id imagine most players at their local clubs would stay if they won trophies and paid as well as Utd had done for the last 20 Years.
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The issue is we never know how things will change. A new manager comes in and doesn't fancy him, doesn't think he fits the system, has his own player he brings with him etc. Suddenly he becomes a squad player and is no longer happy.

Football is so fluid now, I just don't believe anyone can give future guarantees or even genuinely mean them.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
We have seen the Covid bubbles aren't secure but why not. Rugby seems to be coping relatively well (with bigger playing squads) but if we halt the footie season now with so much other footie how does it get finished. I can't seeing anyone in power or with a vested interest wanting a void season
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International football was so stupid . Let them mix with other bubbles then back to their club bubble whilst sending the virus around the globe

Plus it's the behaviour of footballers

Kyle walkers parties
 
Lord Tyrion said:
The issue is we never know how things will change. A new manager comes in and doesn't fancy him, doesn't think he fits the system, has his own player he brings with him etc. Suddenly he becomes a squad player and is no longer happy.

Football is so fluid now, I just don't believe anyone can give future guarantees or even genuinely mean them.
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I think it depends how literally you want to take his statement. Imo he would genuinely like to stay there forever if Things stayed as they were.

For me, player loyalty is shown when you have options to leave whilst the club still want you and you don’t try to leave. If he’s dropped, replaced then he isn’t being disloyal by looking elsewhere. If he rises to be the best Player in world footy and then gets his agent to sort him a move, then he isn’t loyal.
 
Can't fault the performance, Not finishing very good chances cost us.

Desperately need a CB or 2 in January, can't rely on our best CM and a couple of young lads. As much as he's played well at CB, we lose Fabinho's quality in the middle of the park.
 
Stuart_C said:
Can't fault the performance, Not finishing very good chances cost us.

Desperately need a CB or 2 in January, can't rely on our best CM and a couple of young lads. As much as he's played well at CB, we lose Fabinho's quality in the middle of the park.
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Absolutely agree with the last bit. Fab in midfield was so important to our play last season and the more the season goes on it's that which we're blindingly obviously missing. Hopefully Thiago coming back will improve that though. He just makes me smile as a footballer. Saunters onto the pitch after not playing for 2 months, hammers one from distance and then effortlessly pings one 45 yards to feet, then dances around a pair of opposition players.

I think 1 is the max number of CBs we sign in jan. and tbh, I'm not even sure we'll do that.
 
hairball_89 said:
Absolutely agree with the last bit. Fab in midfield was so important to our play last season and the more the season goes on it's that which we're blindingly obviously missing. Hopefully Thiago coming back will improve that though. He just makes me smile as a footballer. Saunters onto the pitch after not playing for 2 months, hammers one from distance and then effortlessly pings one 45 yards to feet, then dances around a pair of opposition players.

I think 1 is the max number of CBs we sign in jan. and tbh, I'm not even sure we'll do that.
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Matip is out for few months, maybe now is the time to look for his long term replacement as we can’t rely on Phillips he has no pace.

I never want to see Milner and Henderson in that midfield 3 together ever again.
 
Stuart_C said:
Matip is out for few months, maybe now is the time to look for his long term replacement as we can’t rely on Phillips he has no pace.

I never want to see Milner and Henderson in that midfield 3 together ever again.
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Agree. On all points. I'm just not sure we'll go for anyone in January. historically with Klopp we don't. Although, if we do I'd imagine it'll be done fairly quickly in Jan as it'll have been happening behind the scenes the last few months - like Taki last season and Virgil before.

Milner simply doesn't have the legs to play in the advanced positions for us anymore, or the ability to be the sitting player. Hendo was basically playing both positions and Jones had no chance in the first half as he was playing their midfield on his own!
 
Just poor finishing , final ball .
keeper was good though and rode their luck.
One thing I don’t understand was unless he’s injured why would we make a substitution with 3 mins to go.?
What is the lad supposed to do in 3 mins, he won’t even get warm in that time.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Just poor finishing , final ball .
keeper was good though and rode their luck.
One thing I don’t understand was unless he’s injured why would we make a substitution with 3 mins to go.?
What is the lad supposed to do in 3 mins, he won’t even get warm in that time.
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The only thing you can do is pull a muscle. Just a very odd decision. Was he trying to run the clock down? ?
 
Stuart_C said:
Can't fault the performance, Not finishing very good chances cost us.

Desperately need a CB or 2 in January, can't rely on our best CM and a couple of young lads. As much as he's played well at CB, we lose Fabinho's quality in the middle of the park.
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Oddly enough reading that last bit, it could of been written by me last year or the year before when we lost Kompany. The first sentence could of been written by me this season.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Just poor finishing , final ball .
keeper was good though and rode their luck.
One thing I don’t understand was unless he’s injured why would we make a substitution with 3 mins to go.?
What is the lad supposed to do in 3 mins, he won’t even get warm in that time.
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Wasting time to secure a point!
 
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