The Footie Thread

[Deleted member 1740]

By the letter of the law he made contact with the other players head using his own head in a head butting motion - it’s a red card all day long regardless of the level of contact or how pathetic it is - it’s a red card by the absolute rules of the game

There'd be no game if every letter of the law was adhered to.

Its a sport. It has rules but come on do we really need to be so strict? Sport, football particularly, has many variables within the game. It also has context to it that needs to be considered.

Just because there's contact doesn't make it serious foulplay. Again, the word "contact" gets banded about to justify every poor decision.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

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Same could be said for £85m man Maguire ??

 

[Lord Tyrion]

There'd be no game if every letter of the law was adhered to.

Its a sport. It has rules but come on do we really need to be so strict? Sport, football particularly, has many variables within the game. It also has context to it that needs to be considered.

Just because there's contact doesn't make it serious foulplay. Again, the word "contact" gets banded about to justify every poor decision.

There was a rubgy ref many years ago who had a spell as being lauded as the worlds ref. I remember watching a game in a pub once and a bloke nearby groaned when he saw it was him in charge. 'He will kill the game. knows every law, doesn't understand the game'. He was right, the game was awful, stop start all the time.

Totally agree with what you said.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

There was a rubgy ref many years ago who had a spell as being lauded as the worlds ref. I remember watching a game in a pub once and a bloke nearby groaned when he saw it was him in charge. 'He will kill the game. knows every law, doesn't understand the game'. He was right, the game was awful, stop start all the time.

Totally agree with what you said.

Media/pundits/ex players have a lot to be guilty of. These, collectively, over the years have been setting the agenda about contact and how this is a pen and thats a pen because there's been contact etc.

On the other hand, if players don't go down they don't get the pen. When was the last time we've seen pens given for fouls where the player hasn't hit the deck? I genuinely can't remember.

 

[Tashyboy]

Quite a few pundits having a go at Olllie this morning for not taking Fred off at half time. Bottom line PSG were always having Fred in there sights. Any challenges and the broken ankle hold was always gonna be favourite response.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

There'd be no game if every letter of the law was adhered to.

Its a sport. It has rules but come on do we really need to be so strict? Sport, football particularly, has many variables within the game. It also has context to it that needs to be considered.

Just because there's contact doesn't make it serious foulplay. Again, the word "contact" gets banded about to justify every poor decision.

I’m not disagreeing with but the first thing you need is consistency - what Fred did last night is no different to Pepe or indeed any other player who has gone head to head with a player , it’s a clear red card regardless of the level of contact - you just can’t do that in football , there is no halfway measure there , it’s clear another player can’t make deliberate contact with another players head with any part of the body.

Yes when looking at fouls etc context needs to be looked but not in this case - it was a clear red card

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Media/pundits/ex players have a lot to be guilty of. These, collectively, over the years have been setting the agenda about contact and how this is a pen and thats a pen because there's been contact etc.

On the other hand, if players don't go down they don't get the pen. When was the last time we've seen pens given for fouls where the player hasn't hit the deck? I genuinely can't remember.

It needs both to get together and sort this out. You are right, it is totally wrong for a ref to ignore fouls purely because the player doesn't do a swan dive. It pushed players down a particular path but sadly they have taken it to an extreme. Now a player feels they have to do this, the ref doesn't know if they are being conned or not. They need a gathering, draw a line and start again.

 

[4LEX]

Solskjær: "If Marquinhos had bigger studs on he’d have been offside. It’s tight in games like these."

 

[Liverbirdie]

It needs both to get together and sort this out. You are right, it is totally wrong for a ref to ignore fouls purely because the player doesn't do a swan dive. It pushed players down a particular path but sadly they have taken it to an extreme. Now a player feels they have to do this, the ref doesn't know if they are being conned or not. They need a gathering, draw a line and start again.

I dont think they were pushed down this path, just slightly nudged, but then done a triple salco, with Pike, as a result.

Agree with the rest though.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Media/pundits/ex players have a lot to be guilty of. These, collectively, over the years have been setting the agenda about contact and how this is a pen and thats a pen because there's been contact etc.

On the other hand, if players don't go down they don't get the pen. When was the last time we've seen pens given for fouls where the player hasn't hit the deck? I genuinely can't remember.

You’ve watched enough football in your life Stu so here’s a genuine question:
Do you believe it’s easy to spot a foul with minimum contact every single time, anywhere on the pitch?

 

[Deleted member 29109]

You’ve watched enough football in your life Stu so here’s a genuine question:
Do you believe it’s easy to spot a foul with minimum contact every single time, anywhere on the pitch?

It's impossible. Which is why players go down. If they stay on thier feet they won't get the decisions. Like the Pepe red for headbutting. Would anyone have noticed if the Leeds player hadn't of made a meal of it? Regardless, there is absolutely no place in football for that sort of thing and it's should be a straight red. I would make it a longer ban too.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It's impossible. Which is why players go down. If they stay on thier feet they won't get the decisions. Like the Pepe red for headbutting. Would anyone have noticed if the Leeds player hadn't of made a meal of it? Regardless, there is absolutely no place in football for that sort of thing and it's should be a straight red. I would make it a longer ban too.

Should they get all the decisions though! The game has gone soft for me, it’s a full on contact sport and the 50/50 tackle is almost lost as it’s interpreted as a foul, honest challenges are non-existent as any slight contact is deemed as a foul and gives a player a “green light” to go down to ensure the Ref sees it.

 

[Slime]

Thought so, good to see Herrera teaching his PSG team mates the ultimate shithousery tricks he used whilst at Yernited?

Unless it's a proper headbutt I think it should only be a yellow card.

What did Neymar do?

He was just being Neymar, surely that's enough!

 

[4LEX]

Amazing after winning in Paris and thrashing RB, Utd now find themselves in a cup final to qualify. Means no rest for key players and City at home afterwards. Ole will have to field his strongest team 3 times in one week to try and save his skin again.

PSG are a horrible side though Mbappe aside.

 

[fundy]

turns out all we needed was the roar of the crowd and Lacazettes a world beater

 

[Old Skier]

Well the masks and no chanting didn’t last long

 

[Deleted member 1740]

turns out all we needed was the roar of the crowd and Lacazettes a world beater

I thought it was the blue shirt....

On a serious note, why?

 

[fundy]

I thought it was the blue shirt....

On a serious note, why?

i guess the answer is money, utterly hate it, wear the home shirt for every home game ffs

 

[Deleted member 1740]

You’ve watched enough football in your life Stu so here’s a genuine question:
Do you believe it’s easy to spot a foul with minimum contact every single time, anywhere on the pitch?

You see here's another pet hate of mine, minimum contact. Its a contact sport, impossible to play it without. We are now down a winding road giving fouls and cards for minimum contact, just caught him etc.

Just because there's minimum co tact it doesn't mean its a foul.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

i guess the answer is money, utterly hate it, wear the home shirt for every home game ffs

He suits blue??