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The Footie Thread

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wow, Jiminez has a fractured skull and had to have surgery last night :( lets hope he makes a full recovery
Yea, and hopefully he doesn't have to retire like Ryan Mason did. He will certainly be out for a long time. Maybe he'll be able to return with a Petr Cech style hat at some point.
 
Why did you say it like that? Surely that's always been a foul? You stand on someone's foot and trip them up in the box that's a penalty 100 times out of 100 isn't it? :LOL:
Because the same ref called the ref to have a look at the Robertson one on Wellbeck.
But he thinks standing on someone’s toe isn’t a pen.
Add insult to injury he lets Oliver book him.
Why didn’t he ask him to have a look on the monitor.
It’s 50/50 on here so worth a look I think , no consistency that’s the problem.
 
It's still just a cut on the head though, it doesn't necessarily mean he had any concussion at all. We're talking about concussion protocol here.
How hard did their heads clash? Enough to do Jimenez some serious damage. How did the damage happen? From Luiz's head. It doesn't take a lot of putting together to judge that Luiz has taken a hefty crack as well. For his own safety he should have been off the pitch, having a scan, game over. Head injuries need to be looked at in a different way to a knock on the ankle.
 
Because the same ref called the ref to have a look at the Robertson one on Wellbeck.
But he thinks standing on someone’s toe isn’t a pen.
Add insult to injury he lets Oliver book him.
Why didn’t he ask him to have a look on the monitor.
It’s 50/50 on here so worth a look I think , no consistency that’s the problem.
The Welbeck one wasn't the same incident. Robertson at least made some contact with the ball during his challenge. With Traore, he went straight past Gabriel, who was beaten all ends up and then stands on his foot trying to make a challenge. I think it was an absolute stonewall penalty, personally. Traore would have kept the ball in and been firing it across the goal. I have absolutely no idea why it wasn't reviewed and a penalty awarded. Probably some nonsense like the yellow card he gave him for 'diving' meant that it couldn't be reviewed because they don't review yellow cards maybe? You know how they like to tie their own hands with their stupid rules around it. :LOL:
 
How hard did their heads clash? Enough to do Jimenez some serious damage. How did the damage happen? From Luiz's head. It doesn't take a lot of putting together to judge that Luiz has taken a hefty crack as well. For his own safety he should have been off the pitch, having a scan, game over. Head injuries need to be looked at in a different way to a knock on the ankle.
Spot on .
You can be ok for hours then it suddenly hits you .
If your alone your in trouble .
He should have been in the hospital with Himenez.

Hope the lads ok ( Himenez) as this is career threatening injury.
 
How hard did their heads clash? Enough to do Jimenez some serious damage. How did the damage happen? From Luiz's head. It doesn't take a lot of putting together to judge that Luiz has taken a hefty crack as well. For his own safety he should have been off the pitch, having a scan, game over. Head injuries need to be looked at in a different way to a knock on the ankle.
I was definitely surprised he played on, but there's not been anything after the game to suggest it was the wrong decision. Perhaps they just got lucky and it shouldn't be left to luck - I get what you're saying. I think with the incident, Luiz basically smashed the side of Raul's head with his own forehead, which is why Raul came off a lot worse. He headed his head like a football basically. :confused: Clumsy ***!
 
The Welbeck one wasn't the same incident. Robertson at least made some contact with the ball during his challenge. With Traore, he went straight past Gabriel, who was beaten all ends up and then stands on his foot trying to make a challenge. I think it was an absolute stonewall penalty, personally. Traore would have kept the ball in and been firing it across the goal. I have absolutely no idea why it wasn't reviewed and a penalty awarded. Probably some nonsense like the yellow card he gave him for 'diving' meant that it couldn't be reviewed because they don't review yellow cards maybe? You know how they like to tie their own hands with their stupid rules around it. :LOL:
That’s not right .
I have seen yellows cancelled and red given.
Yellows have been cancelled after a ref has gone to the monitor and looked.
It’s the rules that are the problem.
And Andre Marriner.
 
I was definitely surprised he played on, but there's not been anything after the game to suggest it was the wrong decision. Perhaps they just got lucky and it shouldn't be left to luck - I get what you're saying. I think with the incident, Luiz basically smashed the side of Raul's head with his own forehead, which is why Raul came off a lot worse. He headed his head like a football basically. :confused: Clumsy ***!
That is the key thing for me. Football is still in the mindset of 'the player says they are okay so that is enough'. The doctor is a club doctor, under pressure to get the player back out again. It should be taken out of their hands.

Your last point, that's just him isn't it :LOL:
 
That is the key thing for me. Football is still in the mindset of 'the player says they are okay so that is enough'. The doctor is a club doctor, under pressure to get the player back out again. It should be taken out of their hands.

Your last point, that's just him isn't it :LOL:
What I meant was, maybe they got lucky, but maybe they didn't - maybe the checks were perfectly adequate and he really was able to carry on. I don't know enough about it. If they changed the rules to something like @MetalMickie suggested - allowing players to be temporarily subbed off for genuine head injuries, giving them a good 10-15 minutes to be assessed, that might be a good place to start. Obviously it wouldn't count as one of your subs.
 
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I think a red (or yellow) was changed or dumbed down at a Palace game this or last season.
Yes seen it a couple of times.
Cards can be changed until the ref puts his report in I always thought.
That’s not new it’s just VAR gives him the tools to do it during the game.
Might be another old wives tale though.
Anyone know for deffo.
 
Yes seen it a couple of times.
Cards can be changed until the ref puts his report in I always thought.
That’s not new it’s just VAR gives him the tools to do it during the game.
Might be another old wives tale though.
Anyone know for deffo.

Paul DJ or Homer will know what they done 20 years ago, when refs used to dress like this:-

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