The Footie Thread

[HomerJSimpson]

Soccer Saturday is another show and I think a lot of Sky's coverage (darts etc) has gone the same way and it's about ticking the right boxes now rather than having a group of people that work together and spark off each other, with the risk that every now and then it may get close to a line

 

[Fish]

City aren’t coming back from this now, they’re so disjointed and unorganized, what a difference from what we’ve seen them be capable of, they’re made Spurs look good, which takes some doing ?

At this rate even Arsenal could beat them ?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I agree that City lack cohesion but Mourinho has set Spurs up not to be beat and only attack on the break. I think the position map of the Spurs players at half time showed how most were in their own half on average. Spurs always had a certain style and reputation for playing good football and while they are winning Mourinho has sucked a lot of creativity out of them

 

[Deleted member 1418]

And that's why Jose is a far superior manager to Pep - they're better organised and know what they're doing....and I hate Tottenham!

Cannot believe Pep has spent about £500 million on defenders over the years - everyone he's bought are useless.

And all the talk is about buying Messi? Laughable.

 

[fundy]

I agree that City lack cohesion but Mourinho has set Spurs up not to be beat and only attack on the break. I think the position map of the Spurs players at half time showed how most were in their own half on average. Spurs always had a certain style and reputation for playing good football and while they are winning Mourinho has sucked a lot of creativity out of them

OK cant believe im going to argue for Spurs and/or Mourinho, let alone both but here goes

Spurs are playing some great football, scoring goals for fun, and have a genuine chance to win the league

Youre going to have to look for a very very long time to find a disappointed Spurs fan currently!

 

[Deleted member 1740]

These types of games are what JM loves. Sets his teams up in a way to get results. At times its not pretty but that doesn't matter. Results matter.

Pep needs to learn from him, otherwise he'll not win a CL for as long as he stays with his pretty style of football.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

And that's why Jose is a far superior manager to Pep - they're better organised and know what they're doing....and I hate Tottenham!

Cannot believe Pep has spent about £500 million on defenders over the years - everyone he's bought are useless.

And all the talk is about buying Messi? Laughable.

Yet never criticised for not improving all of those CB's hes ruined.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I agree that City lack cohesion but Mourinho has set Spurs up not to be beat and only attack on the break. I think the position map of the Spurs players at half time showed how most were in their own half on average. Spurs always had a certain style and reputation for playing good football and while they are winning Mourinho has sucked a lot of creativity out of them

3pts mean a lot more than styles of play.

 

[Billysboots]

OK cant believe im going to argue for Spurs and/or Mourinho, let alone both but here goes

Spurs are playing some great football, scoring goals for fun, and have a genuine chance to win the league

Youre going to have to look for a very very long time to find a disappointed Spurs fan currently!

The injuries at Liverpool have thrown the title wide open. Add to the mix the impact of empty grounds and it’s there to be won.

I’ve got a sneaky feeling for Leicester again. More great transfer business in the summer and a top manager. If they keep Vardy fit I would not bet against them.

 

[Papas1982]

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And that's why Jose is a far superior manager to Pep - they're better organised and know what they're doing....and I hate Tottenham!

Cannot believe Pep has spent about £500 million on defenders over the years - everyone he's bought are useless.

And all the talk is about buying Messi? Laughable.

I agree about Peps lack of consideration when it comes to defending, but, Messi would have papered over the cracks.

So far this season City has conceded 11 and scored 10.

Over last 2 seasons City their goal difference has been close to +70. Just over a goal a game isnt too far wide of their usual standard defensively, Less than 2 goals for is very unusual.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

OK cant believe im going to argue for Spurs and/or Mourinho, let alone both but here goes

Spurs are playing some great football, scoring goals for fun, and have a genuine chance to win the league

Youre going to have to look for a very very long time to find a disappointed Spurs fan currently!

Jensen will be along shortly ?

 

[fundy]

The injuries at Liverpool have thrown the title wide open. Add to the mix the impact of empty grounds and it’s there to be won.

I’ve got a sneaky feeling for Leicester again. More great transfer business in the summer and a top manager. If they keep Vardy fit I would not bet against them.

not sure its just the injuries? how many were missing when they lost 7-2 to Villa? very hard to follow up last season with another the same, but this definitely looks the most open its been for a very long time. as an arsenal fan, the big worry is the league winner is going to come from london and its not us

 

[Deleted member 1740]

not sure its just the injuries? how many were missing when they lost 7-2 to Villa? very hard to follow up last season with another the same, but this definitely looks the most open its been for a very long time. as an arsenal fan, the big worry is the league winner is going to come from london and its not us

Freak game and result, I doubt we'll see anything like that again this season from any teams.

Get to Christmas and we'll see the pack going into the 2nd half of the season.

I think Spurs will be serious challengers though.

 

[fundy]

Freak game and result, I doubt we'll see anything like that again this season from any teams.

Get to Christmas and we'll see the pack going into the 2nd half of the season.

I think Spurs will be serious challengers though.

hardly a freak result, they did us 3-0 too

seriously though, injuries not enough of an excuse so you pool fans can forget getting that card out already

 

[Orikoru]

What an absolute Mourinho performance. Dier was outstanding at the back, best game I've ever seen from him. I do think Ederson is very overrated by a lot of people. I don't think he needs to run off his line like a lunatic on either goal, and he got nutmegged both times. But we're finally starting to see a more resilient defence which is what Jose is meant to bring you, took him a while though. Top of the league and we know Liverpool or Leicester will drop points.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

hardly a freak result, they did us 3-0 too

seriously though, injuries not enough of an excuse so you pool fans can forget getting that card out already

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Injuries are part and parcel of the game and I certainly accept it and won't use it as an excuse but I also won't expect us to play at the same level with a patched up defence as we would with VVD,Trent,Mo etc.

Last season some people were questioning how good we'd be without our main men, they've now got their wish ?

 

[4LEX]

Pep's done well at City but has a blindspot and can't see past it. To me he looks burnt out and passionless, I can't believe he's signed a new two year deal. City are no better than last season, they're losing games in exactly the same manner. Dominating, wasteful and getting done on the counter. They're boring to watch and the oppsition have them figured out. The key issue is they've got no 30 goal striker now Aguero is past it and injury prone. They won't win the title.

Jose has done a remarkable job at Spurs, created a side of decent hard working players with the quality of Kane and Son to create the magic. Any egos have been crushed and he's back in his element. United were crazy to back the likes of Pogba and Martial over a proven world class manager that had won trophies and finished second. Two years on Pogba has been exposed for the clown he is and Martial has less goals this season than Harry Maguire despite playing every game as a striker

Can't see Spurs lasting the distance but they'll go close next season. Liverpool even with injuries will win the title because of Klopp, their keeper, midfield and attack.

 

[Piece]

It doesn't take Jose to work out how to beat City at the moment. City are poor where it counts, in either box. Too slow going forward and left exposed in numbers when they are countered. City could struggle to make top four at this rate ?

 

[fundy]

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Injuries are part and parcel of the game and I certainly accept it and won't use it as an excuse but I also won't expect us to play at the same level with a patched up defence as we would with VVD,Trent,Mo etc.

Last season some people were questioning how good we'd be without our main men, they've now got their wish ?

yep they all played when Villa got 7 maybe youll be better without them

 

[Deleted member 1418]

What an absolute Mourinho performance. Dier was outstanding at the back, best game I've ever seen from him. I do think Ederson is very overrated by a lot of people. I don't think he needs to run off his line like a lunatic on either goal, and he got nutmegged both times. But we're finally starting to see a more resilient defence which is what Jose is meant to bring you, took him a while though. Top of the league and we know Liverpool or Leicester will drop points.

If City had a half decent striker on the pitch they'd have scored 3 or 4. Spurs defensively aren't great at all, but Jose had them better organised than Pep did today.

When your best player - a striker - is making crucial blocks and tackles back in defence then you're actually in a bit of trouble; Kane has done that on a number of occasions this season.

Badically take Kane and Son out of that Spurs team and there's not too much there to worry anyone.