The Footie Thread

[Deleted member 21784]

Obviously other Countries must be slack with their testing, England players 100% negative and they’ve travelled.

Surely it’s also down to players taking some individual responsibility?

Plus no player is forced to play for their National Team and 99% see it as an honour, I can’t see any Club stopping their players representing their Country.

Sorry to return to this but the top bit about other countries I don't think holds true

It's just pure luck.

My wife's school were patting themsleves on back for no covid cases only school in borough then week later 3 cases

They could be best at testing but foden could head a ball that Salah had handled etc

Small risk but could happen

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Sorry to return to this but the top bit about other countries I don't think holds true

It's just pure luck.

My wife's school were patting themsleves on back for no covid cases only school in borough then week later 3 cases

They could be best at testing but foden could head a ball that Salah had handled etc

Small risk but could happen

Then if it’s pure luck, your original point about international fixtures is irrelevant.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Then if it’s pure luck, your original point about international fixtures is irrelevant.

Whilst it's pure luck , it's still risk. Every extra exposure is a risk isn't it?

So why are we risk mixing players from Spain, italy , France , Belgium etc so they can possibly spread the virus to another team who might bring it back to another country

It's irresponsible

I feel the same about the champions League but less so because the group of players are more controlled. You have 2 bubbles .. where as international football is a squad of what 26 players . How many different countries and teams are they from?

The premier League / football league at least it's just within one country and its less of a risk

Those two teams who play are 2 bubbles and if they spread between each other would just be between those teams

International football has much more risk

Look at the Czech national team a month ago. They had so many players test postive they had to send them home and get almost s complete new team

It's just a massive risk for not a lot of real reason.

Is euro 2020 (now 2021) going to go ahead? It's held all over Europe rather than one country so would be another covid spread nightmare .. so maybe it's a risk too far

Don't think how anyone can logically think international football is not risky

 

[Kellfire]

This popped up when I fell into a YouTube black hole this evening. Pick a winner from the December 2006 goal of the month competition.....

Ooofffft. Three contenders for me - Essien for the power generated from the ground, Huddlestone for the technique to keep it low and Scholes for that X Factor of smashing the bar and going in. But all of those expect RVP’s would be a worthy winner.

I see no reason to disagree with the original winner though - Scholes. ?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Whilst it's pure luck , it's still risk. Every extra exposure is a risk isn't it?

So why are we risk mixing players from Spain, italy , France , Belgium etc so they can possibly spread the virus to another team who might bring it back to another country

It's irresponsible

I feel the same about the champions League but less so because the group of players are more controlled. You have 2 bubbles .. where as international football is a squad of what 26 players . How many different countries and teams are they from?

The premier League / football league at least it's just within one country and its less of a risk

Those two teams who play are 2 bubbles and if they spread between each other would just be between those teams

International football has much more risk

Look at the Czech national team a month ago. They had so many players test postive they had to send them home and get almost s complete new team

It's just a massive risk for not a lot of real reason.

Is euro 2020 (now 2021) going to go ahead? It's held all over Europe rather than one country so would be another covid spread nightmare .. so maybe it's a risk too far

Don't think how anyone can logically think international football is not risky

Life is risky at the moment! Shall we sit indoors until this stops?

The Football authorities (like every other profession) are doing everything they can to keep the players safe.

We, in this Country, have some of the worst figures in the world, if anything everyone else should ban people from travelling from the UK.

Friendlies? Absolutely ban them! But organised top level sport has been deemed OK to continue with precautions taken.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Life is risky at the moment! Shall we sit indoors until this stops?

The Football authorities (like every other profession) are doing everything they can to keep the players safe.

We, in this Country, have some of the worst figures in the world, if anything everyone else should ban people from travelling from the UK.

Friendlies? Absolutely ban them! But organised top level sport has been deemed OK to continue with precautions taken.

The football authorities are doing everything they can to protect their own interests.

Otherwise they wouldn't keep lobbying for fans to return this season.

Fans yes are important to football but right now just no. 40,000 football fans mixing on trains buses etc to get there..

Only reason for the fans to return is money.

 

[Orikoru]

I think it's completely stupid that they didn't cancel the Nation's League. Nobody cares about it or even knows what it's for. It's basically friendlies with some imagined competitive element added. It is the definition of unnecessary travel and the amount of people getting positive tests off the back of it just proves how stupid it was.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I think it's completely stupid that they didn't cancel the Nation's League. Nobody cares about it or even knows what it's for. It's basically friendlies with some imagined competitive element added. It is the definition of unnecessary travel and the amount of people getting positive tests off the back of it just proves how stupid it was.

And surely without fans , ticket sales, boost to local economy by fans traveling it's not actually worth it financially?

 

[Orikoru]

And surely without fans , ticket sales, boost to local economy by fans traveling it's not actually worth it financially?

Utterly pointless, plus add in the fixture congestion domestically and how clubs are worried about injuries. An overwhelming list of negatives with not a single positive really.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Utterly pointless, plus add in the fixture congestion domestically and how clubs are worried about injuries. An overwhelming list of negatives with not a single positive really.

Well Declan rice's first goal for England and west ham's first player to score since Matthew upson in 2010 aha about only postive for me

But still it's pointless

Those 2 weeks could be used to get the games in for national level without fixture build up

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It’s not just the Nations League though! World Cup qualifiers in South America, Asia and Africa have taken place during this period, add in the millions of Euros the Countries get from the Nations League plus promotion up and down the ladder it’s more than just about the PL, some of the smaller Countries need it.

Personally I believe All and I mean All football should of stopped until fans could return, but at the same time we have to stop being so parochial when it comes to International Football, the World doesn’t revolve around England and the PL.

 

[Orikoru]

It’s not just the Nations League though! World Cup qualifiers in South America, Asia and Africa have taken place during this period, add in the millions of Euros the Countries get from the Nations League plus promotion up and down the ladder it’s more than just about the PL, some of the smaller Countries need it.

Personally I believe All and I mean All football should of stopped until fans could return, but at the same time we have to stop being so parochial when it comes to International Football, the World doesn’t revolve around England and the PL.

I think domestic football is far easier to continue with than internationals since you're not flying people here there and everywhere around the world. Qualifiers for proper competitions probably did have to take place. I'm just saying that friendlies, and the Nations League which is basically glorified friendlies, were very far from necessary and should have been cancelled at this time.

How much money are smaller countries making from Nations League with no fans?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I think domestic football is far easier to continue with than internationals since you're not flying people here there and everywhere around the world. Qualifiers for proper competitions probably did have to take place. I'm just saying that friendlies, and the Nations League which is basically glorified friendlies, were very far from necessary and should have been cancelled at this time.

How much money are smaller countries making from Nations League with no fans?

They are getting money through TV rights, sponsorship and if they get promoted to higher leagues (like Wales have) they’ll play bigger Teams next year which increases revenue.

I don’t like it, but the PL wouldn’t play matches unless all International fixtures were stopped, the friendlies are only played during International breaks, so without them there would no Football at all.

 

[Orikoru]

They are getting money through TV rights, sponsorship and if they get promoted to higher leagues (like Wales have) they’ll play bigger Teams next year which increases revenue.

I don’t like it, but the PL wouldn’t play matches unless all International fixtures were stopped, the friendlies are only played during International breaks, so without them there would no Football at all.

That's not true is it? The Premier League has frequently continued at the same time as the African Nations being on, for example.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

That's not true is it? The Premier League has frequently continued at the same time as the African Nations being on, for example.

That’s one Tournament! Africa or South America don’t stop for the Euros, a Continental specific trophy is not classed as a International break by FIFA.

There were World Cup qualifiers going on the past 2 weeks, ie, the period we were discussing!

 

[Blue in Munich]

This popped up when I fell into a YouTube black hole this evening. Pick a winner from the December 2006 goal of the month competition.....

https://www.givemesport.com/1557398...f-the-month-competition-was-outrageously-good

 

[Orikoru]

That’s one Tournament! Africa or South America don’t stop for the Euros, a Continental specific trophy is not classed as a International break by FIFA.

There were World Cup qualifiers going on the past 2 weeks, ie, the period we were discussing!

Well by the same token they don't need to stop the Premier League if a couple of games like Estonia v Slovenia happen to be on. The odd team might lose one player for a week, so be it. Either way we are talking about cutting down unnecessary international travel here, fixture congestion was only one additional factor. The fact is playing a friendly is unnecessary.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Well by the same token they don't need to stop the Premier League if a couple of games like Estonia v Slovenia happen to be on. The odd team might lose one player for a week, so be it. Either way we are talking about cutting down unnecessary international travel here, fixture congestion was only one additional factor. The fact is playing a friendly is unnecessary.

You’re not getting it! FIFA have tried to help the Football Authorities by sanctioning what is or isn’t an International Break, ie, periods when all members are to play qualifiers or a friendly if already qualified etc,

If Brazil suddenly decided to play Spain in Saudi Arabia next week in a friendly it would be almost be impossible to get FIFA to sanction it and give the 2 Countries the power to demand players.

If we don’t have friendlies how are managers/players etc meant to get a chance see or prove themselves if we have already qualified for a tournament.

England only played a friendly last week as they could play 3 games during the International break and only had to play 2, Scotland played 3 qualifiers.

Southgate still had the players, why not test them?

 

[Piece]

Pep's new 2 year deal surely seals Messi's transfer to Manchester Citeh. Bring yer brolly Lionel!

 

[Liverbirdie]

You’re not getting it! FIFA have tried to help the Football Authorities by sanctioning what is or isn’t an International Break, ie, periods when all members are to play qualifiers or a friendly if already qualified etc,

If Brazil suddenly decided to play Spain in Saudi Arabia next week in a friendly it would be almost be impossible to get FIFA to sanction it and give the 2 Countries the power to demand players.

If we don’t have friendlies how are managers/players etc meant to get a chance see or prove themselves if we have already qualified for a tournament.

England only played a friendly last week as they could play 3 games during the International break and only had to play 2, Scotland played 3 qualifiers.

Southgate still had the players, why not test them?

Because we have a condensed season.

Dont get me wrong other things domestically should also have happened.

Scrap the league cup for 1 year (and compensate FL clubs), or optional to play for teams that are in Europe who will play an extra 6 games than the rest between oct-December (just this year, mind).

No FA cup replays this year.

No international friendlies until 2022.