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The Footie Thread

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Liverpoolphil said:
Lucky with injures last season ?

Last season at times we had

Allison , Matip , TAA , Fabinho , Mane , Salah , Henderson out injured - the media narrative was we were lucky with injuries when it clearly wasn’t the case ( same with the VAR nonsense )

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As stated. Not out together though

That's why it's a squad game but now you have both first choice central defenders out. Plus your first choice right back.

You will notice that chart has city with little injuries but I'm sure they felt their central defender crisis a lot

Of your 34 injuries how many were key players together

Let's say 3 starters together ..or 2 for more than 3 games
 
The key players in the Liverpool side only missed a small number of games relative to the whole season. Allison at the start was the only really 'major' injury. But who really cares injuries are part of football and some seasons are good, some bad.

Even with the injuries, I think Liverpool will still win the title based on what I've seen from them and Man City. Pep really looks burnt out, his intense style has taken a toll on the players, they're dropping stupid points in the same manner as last season and have a weakened midfield and attack. Once Thiago gets fit and settled and with Jota really upgrading the attacking options, they'll easily patch the defence until January and sign an experienced centre back or two to see them through.
 
Slime said:
I don't read it, but that's how rumours spread as it's often used maliciously.
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You mean similar to below? Unless of course you’ve spoken to OGS personally and you haven’t believed everything you’ve read on social media etc aren’t you possibly spreading rumours/lies?

Wasn’t Woodward’s house and family threatened by disgruntled United fans in the recent past?

Slime said:
Total lack of support by the Glazers and Woodward. OGS wanted Sancho and the club gave him Cavani.
Man United, as a football club, are an absolute joke.
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pauljames87 said:
As stated. Not out together though

That's why it's a squad game but now you have both first choice central defenders out. Plus your first choice right back.

You will notice that chart has city with little injuries but I'm sure they felt their central defender crisis a lot

Of your 34 injuries how many were key players together

Let's say 3 starters together ..or 2 for more than 3 games
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I'd say one of the best goalkeepers in the world being out for a quarter of the season is fairly big!

Either way, we have to deal with it. Both VVD and Gomez' injuries are freak injuries that you don't "normally" see. And Gomez & TAA are the sort of injuries that will happen across the course of the season to most teams. Mo is annoying, but nothing more. In reality it's only the Leicester game he's missing as he was unlikely gonna play the Atalanta game anyway.

I'm not convinced we'll do much business in January. See how Matip is holding up (when he's fit, he's quality, IMO - was brilliant against City) & see how the midfield is shaping up without Fabinho as he'll clearly be playing CB more than in the middle. With Williams and Phillips getting the European games and league games respectively, as seems to be the way, maybe they'll look to bring someone in, but I'm not convinced. We've had the need for January reinforcements before - albeit not with as big a hole to fill! - and not gone for it.
 
hairball_89 said:
I'd say one of the best goalkeepers in the world being out for a quarter of the season is fairly big!

Either way, we have to deal with it. Both VVD and Gomez' injuries are freak injuries that you don't "normally" see. And Gomez & TAA are the sort of injuries that will happen across the course of the season to most teams. Mo is annoying, but nothing more. In reality it's only the Leicester game he's missing as he was unlikely gonna play the Atalanta game anyway.

I'm not convinced we'll do much business in January. See how Matip is holding up (when he's fit, he's quality, IMO - was brilliant against City) & see how the midfield is shaping up without Fabinho as he'll clearly be playing CB more than in the middle. With Williams and Phillips getting the European games and league games respectively, as seems to be the way, maybe they'll look to bring someone in, but I'm not convinced. We've had the need for January reinforcements before - albeit not with as big a hole to fill! - and not gone for it.
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Whilst Allison missed 11 games how many did vvd miss? 1 wasn't it? And Salah 1? Where as now you had Allison out but vvd is also out for the entire season .. that's much worse . Also add Gomez on top.. and fabinho whilst out last year this year he would be needed to cover vvd in this kind of situation so even plan f is gone
 
hairball_89 said:
Either way, we have to deal with it. Both VVD and Gomez' injuries are freak injuries that you don't "normally" see. And Gomez & TAA are the sort of injuries that will happen across the course of the season to most teams.
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I'm assuming that there's a typo in there for one of the names purely because it can't be both a freak injury and the sort of injury that will happen across the course of the season to most teams. Is the second Gomez meant to be a different name?
 
pauldj42 said:
You mean similar to below? Unless of course you’ve spoken to OGS personally and you haven’t believed everything you’ve read on social media etc aren’t you possibly spreading rumours/lies?

Wasn’t Woodward’s house and family threatened by disgruntled United fans in the recent past?
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What rumours/lies am I supposed to have spread? :unsure:
 
ColchesterFC said:
I'm assuming that there's a typo in there for one of the names purely because it can't be both a freak injury and the sort of injury that will happen across the course of the season to most teams. Is the second Gomez meant to be a different name?
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No, it was deliberate. But perhaps badly worded.

In a normal season Gomez and Trent's injuries don't happen. Or certainly don't happen this early into them, at least. Gomez was, by all accounts, on his own, nobody around him and is tendon snapped. That's a freak injury in my book. Just a freak injury caused by the player playing too much football without suitable recovery time. Whereas Van Dijk's was clearly an impact injury, but also a freak injury.

I guess I mean freak, in relation to the length of time they're out as well as the thing that caused the injury. Everybody expected teams to have players out for 2 weeks here, a month there, this season. But to have 2 CBs out for the rest of the season (all but, in Joe's case) is mad.
 
Sad news indeed.
I just wonder how many England caps he'd have got if he wasn't constantly flip flopping with Shilton.
He was a great 'keeper, that's for sure.
 
Slime said:
Sad news indeed.
I just wonder how many England caps he'd have got if he wasn't constantly flip flopping with Shilton.
He was a great 'keeper, that's for sure.
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And the flip side of that being how many caps Shilton would have ended up with if it hadn't been for Clemence. I imagine that having two truly world class goalkeepers to choose from is a nice dilemma for an international manager to have. I'm sure that Gareth Southgate would be over the moon if he was presented with that situation.
 
Henderson subbed at halftime due to injury.

This has gotta be some sick joke surely....
 
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