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The Footie Thread

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So they were down a whole year before they even went up? That's a strange take.

He has one good season with the feel good factor ... Where he is the players mate ..

Then players fitness and discipline goes and his team's are rubbish


When Moyes came in first time he commented how unfit we were (how we were blowing out our bums at 70 mins)
 
Nice win for the Foxes ?

Vardy may have lost a yard of pace, but his all around game is getting better and better. Fofana looks a great prospect.
 
Pochettino on MNF has been brilliant. Comes across as a really good guy, could listen to him forever.
 
Nice win for the Foxes ?

Vardy may have lost a yard of pace, but his all around game is getting better and better. Fofana looks a great prospect.
Has he?? I'm not sure he has!

Pochettino on MNF has been brilliant. Comes across as a really good guy, could listen to him forever.
I do like listening to him but his accent is tough to make out sometimes. I have to listen very closely to get what he's saying. He never has a bad word to say about anyone or any of the situations he's been in. (y)
 
Did Jota really only cost £40mil - looking a steal right now , clinical
The recruitment team are fab. I thought he was going to fit in well... But the way he's slotted in and looks like he's been here for years is mad.

Both finishes tonight excellent. Arguably should have a hat trick. The boy Williams has done well too. Shame Thiago isn't fit... He'd have a field day with the space they're giving our midfield!
 
I didn't think Jota would be as good as he's been, thought 40m was way too much. We should've asked for 80m! Good on him.
He's settled in quicker than anybody could have predicted. I was excited when we signed him, but he's already excelling. Can he keep it up? Who knows. Hopefully him coming in allows us to pick "3 from 4" - what I'd hoped with the Werner noise before he went to Chelsea - and that means none of them have to keep up the form. There's always one of them hungry on the bench!

Great performance. Another game for Jones and Williams. Minutes for Tsimikas, neco, keita too. Bring on City!
 
He's settled in quicker than anybody could have predicted. I was excited when we signed him, but he's already excelling. Can he keep it up? Who knows. Hopefully him coming in allows us to pick "3 from 4" - what I'd hoped with the Werner noise before he went to Chelsea - and that means none of them have to keep up the form. There's always one of them hungry on the bench!

Great performance. Another game for Jones and Williams. Minutes for Tsimikas, neco, keita too. Bring on City!

He's a confidence player, he'll keep banging them in as long as that stays high.
 
I didn't think Jota would be as good as he's been, thought 40m was way too much. We should've asked for 80m! Good on him.

He's from the same mould as Mane. One of the Southampton lads on here said something similar about Mane as you did with Jota when we signed him. Playing with better players helps too

He's exciting to watch, long way to go but initial performances have been superb.
 
He's settled in quicker than anybody could have predicted. I was excited when we signed him, but he's already excelling. Can he keep it up? Who knows. Hopefully him coming in allows us to pick "3 from 4" - what I'd hoped with the Werner noise before he went to Chelsea - and that means none of them have to keep up the form. There's always one of them hungry on the bench!

Great performance. Another game for Jones and Williams. Minutes for Tsimikas, neco, keita too. Bring on City!

Is it not picking 1 from 2 with either Jota or Firmino along with Salah and Mane? That's a genuine question by the way, not a dig, as I don't know enough about Jota to know if he's capable of doing the Mane/Salah role.
 
Is it not picking 1 from 2 with either Jota or Firmino along with Salah and Mane? That's a genuine question by the way, not a dig, as I don't know enough about Jota to know if he's capable of doing the Mane/Salah role.

I expected him to play off the left. Covering for Mane, with Minamino covering for Bobby and Shaq/Mane covering for Salah. What we've seen, for me, is that he can play anywhere across the 3 and our productivity doesn't drop. He's not as good as Mane or Salah, but few are. Tonight, through the middle he showed what he can do. When he came on for Bobby against Everton, he played off the left, Mane went through the middle.

The key for me, is that our game doesn't change. The personnel may be different, but so many times over the last few seasons you've seen Origi come on for one of the front 3 and our attack die. He's a reasonable top level (PL) footballer. But he's not on the same wavelength as the other 3, technically or mentally. Where Jota comes in, from what I've seen is that he gives us the option to lose one of the 3 and the way we play doesn't change. I still think the 3 are the main 3 and Jota is no4. The city game at the weekend will shed some light, for me Jota deserves to start ahead of Bobby. But it allows us, especially considering the number of games this year, to rest 1 of the main 3 and keep the aggressive nature of the attack.

Quick addition: As @Stuart_C says above, he's not quite there yet as a legitimate 3 from 4 right now, although he was absolutely brilliant tonight. But the signs are that he absolutely has everything in his locker to push on.
 
I expected him to play off the left. Covering for Mane, with Minamino covering for Bobby and Shaq/Mane covering for Salah. What we've seen, for me, is that he can play anywhere across the 3 and our productivity doesn't drop. He's not as good as Mane or Salah, but few are. Tonight, through the middle he showed what he can do. When he came on for Bobby against Everton, he played off the left, Mane went through the middle.

The key for me, is that our game doesn't change. The personnel may be different, but so many times over the last few seasons you've seen Origi come on for one of the front 3 and our attack die. He's a reasonable top level (PL) footballer. But he's not on the same wavelength as the other 3, technically or mentally. Where Jota comes in, from what I've seen is that he gives us the option to lose one of the 3 and the way we play doesn't change. I still think the 3 are the main 3 and Jota is no4. The city game at the weekend will shed some light, for me Jota deserves to start ahead of Bobby. But it allows us, especially considering the number of games this year, to rest 1 of the main 3 and keep the aggressive nature of the attack.

Quick addition: As @Stuart_C says above, he's not quite there yet as a legitimate 3 from 4 right now, although he was absolutely brilliant tonight. But the signs are that he absolutely has everything in his locker to push on.

I think we will see all 4 on the pitch at times, sometimes Jurgen may start with all 4 if he goes to a 4-2-3-1 against defensive teams at Anfield, or sometimes he may finish the game that way if we are behind or only drawing.

He'll also want options for changing one of them in the last 10-15 also, so can still put on Minamino / Origi / Shaq depending on injuries and how many offensive subs he can get on the bench.

We can now change personnel, as well as formation going forward.

We just need to get in a CH in January, as was one short anyway.
 
Jota is just top class. Those finishes last night were genuinely world class. No ego, no posing, no excuses - just doing the business right away.

Firmino has been brilliant over the last few years in that role but Jota will give competition and mean Klopp can rotate. I expect Liverpool to play a more attacking formation with the lack of VVD and when Thiago gets a run of games Liverpool will be almost impossible to stop.
 
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