The Footie Thread

[Billysboots]

All three are “decent” players - but I still find it staggering that Maguire was what - £80mil ?! AWB - £50mil ?! And Luke Shaw £35mil 7 years ago - staggering prices for “decent Prem” players. They are all a couple rungs below true world class quality

I never said they were worth the money paid for them, Phil, neither did I suggest they are world class.

Other clubs have been having United’s pants down for years in the transfer market, Maguire being a prime example. We paid at least £40m too much, if not more.

 

[Orikoru]

I've turned on BT Sport for Spurs and Jenas is hosting. When did that become a thing??

 

[Billysboots]

I've turned on BT Sport for Spurs and Jenas is hosting. When did that become a thing??

I think he’s hosted a couple now. He also co-hosts The One Show on BBC1, apparently.

 

[Beezerk]

I've turned on BT Sport for Spurs and Jenas is hosting. When did that become a thing??

He does the “Disney hands” thing innit, bit street, bit cheesy for the masses ?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

He is the ultimate in bland ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I never said they were worth the money paid for them, Phil, neither did I suggest they are world class.

Other clubs have been having United’s pants down for years in the transfer market, Maguire being a prime example. We paid at least £40m too much, if not more.

sorry yes I know you weren’t

I think that’s where one of the biggest issues is - a lack of any decent football director - Woodward is a lawyer essentially and appears to be completely out of his depth in the role

 

[Orikoru]

He is the ultimate in bland ?

In some ways that's probably more what you want from the host rather than from the pundits!

 

[Billysboots]

He is the ultimate in bland ?

You need to taste my elderly mum’s seafood risotto. Now that’s bland.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Both Maguire and Shaw are and have always been overrated because they are English and weren’t horrific during the Euros - Maguires positionally is poor hence why he has to throw himself into tackles , and how some saw Shaw as at the level of Robertson is laughable IMO

Always thought AWB was a solid defender but ripped apart in recent games.

Sorry Phil but I really do think you watch Robertson through rose tinted glasses.
He’s decent,but certainly not the wordie you make him out to be.
Seen him look a bit suspect this season tbh.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

In some ways that's probably more what you want from the host rather than from the pundits!

Hosts don't need to be controversial but they are allowed a personality.

 

[Beezerk]

Eddie Howe to the Toon ?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Sorry Phil but I really do think you watch Robertson through rose tinted glasses.
He’s decent,but certainly not the wordie you make him out to be.
Seen him look a bit suspect this season tbh.

Robertson is a good player but replaceable

If you have 2 good centre backs and a defensive midfielder behind you enabling you to bomb forward you always look better

Look at cresswell. Couple of dire seasons when we were all over place defensively.. but put ogbonna and zouma together with rice and soucek suddenly he has freedom to bomb forward and create

Put Robertson in a poor defence he will look poor

Where as someone like van dyke will always look class.. that's the level he is and will raise players game around him

Much like payet raised our players games when he was in the team as he was outstanding player

Two types of good players

Good players to fit a system and players to build around

Robertson is not one to build around but is a good player to add some finesse

 

[Orikoru]

Exciting half for the neutral anyway. Thought we had it sown up, but it turns out we're still Spurs and Conte hasn't made us good yet. He's had nearly a week, what's he been doing??

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Eddie Howe to the Toon ?

Lol ??????

 

[Pin-seeker]

Robertson is a good player but replaceable

If you have 2 good centre backs and a defensive midfielder behind you enabling you to bomb forward you always look better

Look at cresswell. Couple of dire seasons when we were all over place defensively.. but put ogbonna and zouma together with rice and soucek suddenly he has freedom to bomb forward and create

Put Robertson in a poor defence he will look poor

Where as someone like van dyke will always look class.. that's the level he is and will raise players game around him

Much like payet raised our players games when he was in the team as he was outstanding player

Two types of good players

Good players to fit a system and players to build around

Robertson is not one to build around but is a good player to add some finesse

Spot on ??

 

[Cherry13]

Lol ??????

Not a fan?

im not devastated by his appointment, but it’s been a bit of a mess the last few days. He needs to get off to a quick start though, once Rafa gets the chop (inevitable) he’s going to loom large over any appointment.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Not a fan?

im not devastated by his appointment, but it’s been a bit of a mess the last few days. He needs to get off to a quick start though, once Rafa gets the chop (inevitable) he’s going to loom large over any appointment.

He can't organise a defense (ironically) which in a team that's in a relegation battle unable to spend until January defensive play would be key to making sure their not too far a drift

 

[IanM]

Spurs being Spurs.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not a fan?

im not devastated by his appointment, but it’s been a bit of a mess the last few days. He needs to get off to a quick start though, once Rafa gets the chop (inevitable) he’s going to loom large over any appointment.

Howe did very well with Bournemouth and tried to play football with his team instead of at times doing the ugly stuff. Think it’s a good appointment to steady things and even if they do go down will be a manager that can get them back up. Certainly don’t think it’s the worst appointment

 

[Cherry13]

He can't organise a defense (ironically) which in a team that's in a relegation battle unable to spend until January defensive play would be key to making sure their not too far a drift

He seems a pretty smart bloke, I’d hope he’s spent some time learning and evaluating his defensive frailties (and any others). But to be honest I think up until Jan the defence is a lost cause, he might eke a little bit more out of lascelles, but the whole unit is a shambles. They need a DM, both full backs and likely another CB. I’m not sure even Rafa could turn that defence around between now and Jan.