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Rumours tonight of Ronaldo going to PSG with Mbappe going to Real Madrid. No idea how Real are going to be able to afford Mbappe but PSG with a front three of Messi, Neymar and Ronaldo would certainly be interesting to watch. If I were in charge of Man Utd or Liverpool this evening I'd definitely be looking at any possible way to hijack the Mbappe signing. Especially for Man Utd, if they could get Mbappe in this transfer window and then Haaland next summer and keep Pogba they'd have an awesome looking front five with Pogba, Mbappe, Sancho, Haaland and Fernandes and that's without mentioning Rashford or Greenwood.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Rumours tonight of Ronaldo going to PSG with Mbappe going to Real Madrid. No idea how Real are going to be able to afford Mbappe but PSG with a front three of Messi, Neymar and Ronaldo would certainly be interesting to watch. If I were in charge of Man Utd or Liverpool this evening I'd definitely be looking at any possible way to hijack the Mbappe signing. Especially for Man Utd, if they could get Mbappe in this transfer window and then Haaland next summer and keep Pogba they'd have an awesome looking front five with Pogba, Mbappe, Sancho, Haaland and Fernandes and that's without mentioning Rashford or Greenwood.
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Well Rashford would probably be on loan at West Ham or Everton if Utd had that team. :LOL:
 
ColchesterFC said:
Rumours tonight of Ronaldo going to PSG with Mbappe going to Real Madrid. No idea how Real are going to be able to afford Mbappe but PSG with a front three of Messi, Neymar and Ronaldo would certainly be interesting to watch. If I were in charge of Man Utd or Liverpool this evening I'd definitely be looking at any possible way to hijack the Mbappe signing. Especially for Man Utd, if they could get Mbappe in this transfer window and then Haaland next summer and keep Pogba they'd have an awesome looking front five with Pogba, Mbappe, Sancho, Haaland and Fernandes and that's without mentioning Rashford or Greenwood.
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I don’t see Mbappe coming to the Prem - the level of wages that Madrid can offer will dwarf anything a Prem club can offer , especially with tax rates etc.

I have no doubt Klopp would love Mbappe and there apparently have been conversations with his family etc but we would only be able to offer a heavily incentive based contract - the same as what Salah etc are on , but you never know , PSG could possibly lose him on a free

Haaland I think is different - think he would love to be in the Prem , next year he will available for a small fee - so he is a realistic option but even then I see him going to Bayern with Lewondonski leaving
 
DanFST said:
Not very respectful.
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It's nice to finally have a manager who drops him

He hasn't been at the races for a long time. It's nice to finally move on. If the fans had been there last year I doubt he would be here this year
 
Canary_Yellow said:
How can you disagree without having seen the incident?!

The Son tackle wasn't really a trip, there was more force applied, but it was still incredibly unlucky to have the consequences that it did. Really, what he did was a yellow card offence (hence why the red was over turned). In any case, Cantwell trips Jota, he doesn't hack him down, it just wasn't dangerous. Cynical? Absolutely, but that's a big part of the modern game and Klopp and Guardiola's sides are the best at it.

I don't like that part of the game, but i don't see how it's possible to introduce tougher punishments.
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The Klopp team that has finished top of the fair play league the last 3 seasons?

You need a new script writer.
 
Liverbirdie said:
The Klopp team that has finished top of the fair play league the last 3 seasons?

You need a new script writer.
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LOL - standard Liverpool fan thinking everyone is thinking about them all the time, I don’t have a narrative in relation to Liverpool. My point was illustrative, i don’t care whether Liverpool are tactical foulers or not, my point was simply that the best teams are actually more guilty of tactical fouling than most others, Man City are a prime example, they’re very good at making sure teams don’t get any momentum by tackling or fouling quickly after turnover. Something like 8 seconds after turnover on average.

I don’t care about Liverpool and I’m happy to take your word for their fairness, but for what it’s worth the fair play league is a red herring with regard to the question of who is guilty of tactical fouling. It’s based on yellow and red cards only, given the top sides tend to have the most possession, they will commit fewer fouls, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t necessarily commit proportionally more fouls for every second they are not in possession, and they’re also more likely to commit fouls in the opposition half which are inherently less likely to result in a yellow card.
 
pokerjoke said:
It was a very good watch Tash
Can’t believe the age of some of the Dortmund team.
Bayern looked too strong.
Would love Harland at Utd worth breaking the bank for
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The pace and intensity for a " friendly" was unreal. It only emphasised about my disappointment at the lack of effort in Citys loss at the weekend. There some good kids at Dortmund.
 
Canary_Yellow said:
LOL - standard Liverpool fan thinking everyone is thinking about them all the time, I don’t have a narrative in relation to Liverpool. My point was illustrative, i don’t care whether Liverpool are tactical foulers or not, my point was simply that the best teams are actually more guilty of tactical fouling than most others, Man City are a prime example, they’re very good at making sure teams don’t get any momentum by tackling or fouling quickly after turnover. Something like 8 seconds after turnover on average.

I don’t care about Liverpool and I’m happy to take your word for their fairness, but for what it’s worth the fair play league is a red herring with regard to the question of who is guilty of tactical fouling. It’s based on yellow and red cards only, given the top sides tend to have the most possession, they will commit fewer fouls, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t necessarily commit proportionally more fouls for every second they are not in possession, and they’re also more likely to commit fouls in the opposition half which are inherently less likely to result in a yellow card.
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Firstly, it was from a non-Liverpool fan from Scotland who said that every talks about Liverpool, not any of us Liverpool fans, and he has a very valid point.

I agree a lot on what you say about how yellows and reds are apportioned, and not just looking at the stats, but to say we are in the same league for tactical fouling as City is massively incorrect. Liverpool are one of, if not the best pressing team in the prem, but more based on winning possession high than fouling high. City do both, if they dont win possession high they tactically foul high - Grealish was straight into it on Sunday. There is a difference.

If you said that Milner does it a lot - absolutely, Hendo sometimes and the others on occasion yes, but its not something the whole team does as much or as consistently as City. That is the difference, and would think that most neutrals would agree.

Cantwell - he had a great game at Anfield 2 years ago and I put him in my fantasy team at the time, but is like the new Lallana. He does some great little turns and flicks, but doesnt score enough at the top level and is the nearly man - nearly scores, nearly gets that great pass there etc.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Firstly, it was from a non-Liverpool fan from Scotland who said that every talks about Liverpool, not any of us Liverpool fans, and he has a very valid point.

I agree a lot on what you say about how yellows and reds are apportioned, and not just looking at the stats, but to say we are in the same league for tactical fouling as City is massively incorrect. Liverpool are one of, if not the best pressing team in the prem, but more based on winning possession high than fouling high. City do both, if they dont win possession high they tactically foul high - Grealish was straight into it on Sunday. There is a difference.

If you said that Milner does it a lot - absolutely, Hendo sometimes and the others on occasion yes, but its not something the whole team does as much or as consistently as City. That is the difference, and would think that most neutrals would agree.

Cantwell - he had a great game at Anfield 2 years ago and I put him in my fantasy team at the time, but is like the new Lallana. He does some great little turns and flicks, but doesnt score enough at the top level and is the nearly man - nearly scores, nearly gets that great pass there etc.
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In this case, it’s a Norwich supporter talking about a Norwich player ?

Agree about Cantwell, he’s not really what we need in my opinion. I’m not saying he’s not a good player, clearly he is, but too often he looks very neat and tidy, looks after the ball well, but doesn’t cause the opposition enough problems. Needs to up his assists for me to go to the next level.

I wasn’t meaning to cause offence with my comment on Liverpool, the context was an observation that tactical fouling is part of the game at all levels, and the top as much as anywhere or perhaps more, and that it would be incredibly difficult to remove from the game. I’m sure you’re right about Liverpool, Man City and Arsenal definitely do it though! And they aren’t alone.
 
What a satisfying win , some excellent football , brilliant second goal , great to see Kostas filling in very well for Robbo.

What a superb debut from young Elliot , going to be a cracking player .

Burnley - ale house football ,
 
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