The Footie Thread

[Captainron]

Talksport is the sun of the airwaves .. hosted by click bait presenters

No doubt they need a bit of content and this is a perfect fit for that.

Kane has been poor and I mean shockingly poor thus far. There is no denying that. He does need to have a good game against Germany.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Talksport is the sun of the airwaves .. hosted by click bait presenters

Tabloid radio trying to be controversial. Who'd have thought?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

No doubt they need a bit of content and this is a perfect fit for that.

Kane has been poor and I mean shockingly poor thus far. There is no denying that. He does need to have a good game against Germany.

When Kane is given chances and is supported he is one of if not the best finishers around.

He's not getting enough support

Grealish is the first to cross balls into areas that he can attack

Sancho is more a winger who beats a man and crosses in

In the system Gareth is setting up a Kane type striker almost seems out of place which is insane as he is such a good player .. Gareth needs to either play someone who suits his preferred system or change it to suit the world class players he has

 

[Captainron]

When Kane is given chances and is supported he is one of if not the best finishers around.

He's not getting enough support

Grealish is the first to cross balls into areas that he can attack

Sancho is more a winger who beats a man and crosses in

In the system Gareth is setting up a Kane type striker almost seems out of place which is insane as he is such a good player .. Gareth needs to either play someone who suits his preferred system or change it to suit the world class players he has

Then play someone who fits the system? You’re just trying to fit a square peg in a round hole

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Then play someone who fits the system? You’re just trying to fit a square peg in a round hole

Yet that square peg is a world class striker .. I'd change the system to fit him in

 

[Jimaroid]

Yet that square peg is a world class striker .. I'd change the system to fit him in

This is a very strange view of what makes a world class player. A truely world class player will show performance under any circumstances. Kane has shown nothing of that, Southgate should bin him and play the team that exists not the team that doesn’t.

 

[Captainron]

Yet that square peg is a world class striker .. I'd change the system to fit him in

Now you’re just sounding like @Liverpoolphil.

He needs to be adaptable to all systems.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Now you’re just sounding like @Liverpoolphil.

He needs to be adaptable to all systems.

He can't learn to have the speed of sterling etc

He's coming so deep because nothing is happening service wise

 

[Captainron]

He can't learn to have the speed of sterling etc

He's coming so deep because nothing is happening service wise

I’d Sterling had his finishing ability then you would have an amazing striker.

 

[BrianM]

If England cant make the final in that side of the draw with the talent at there disposal, something is far wrong.
You couldn't get an easier route, Germans are still good but nothing like the Germany of old.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

I’d Sterling had his finishing ability then you would have an amazing striker.

Vardy had both but he was criminally underused

Sturridge was thought to have it all but glass legs don't help us

Sterling looked better when he was pushed to play along side Kane, that seemed to change after we scored and then everyone looked one dimensional again

 

[Lord Tyrion]

This is a very strange view of what makes a world class player. A truely world class player will show performance under any circumstances. Kane has shown nothing of that, Southgate should bin him and play the team that exists not the team that doesn’t.

The hardest thing in football is to score goals. If you have a goalscorer then feed him. We have a world class goalscorer and to not utilise him is criminal. All the nice play, or ugly play, in the world is irrelevant if you don't have someone who can finish it off.

 

[Orikoru]

People are still expecting Kane to be a one man team and do it all on his own then? I give up. *bangs head on wall*

If you really think we should drop one of the top 5 strikers in the world for a match with Germany you want your head checking. As we said yesterday, Calvert-Lewin isn't going to provide anything over and above what Kane does. In fact he relies on service even more I would suggest.

 

[chrisd]

If England cant make the final in that side of the draw with the talent at there disposal, something is far wrong.
You couldn't get an easier route, Germans are still good but nothing like the Germany of old.

I get your drift - if we dont win the competition we've now massively failed

 

[Kellfire]

People are still expecting Kane to be a one man team and do it all on his own then? I give up. *bangs head on wall*

If you really think we should drop one of the top 5 strikers in the world for a match with Germany you want your head checking. As we said yesterday, Calvert-Lewin isn't going to provide anything over and above what Kane does. In fact he relies on service even more I would suggest.

You simply can’t rule out the concept of form though. It’s possible for Kane to be a better player overall but in worse form.

 

[Orikoru]

You simply can’t rule out the concept of form though. It’s possible for Kane to be a better player overall but in worse form.

Not to that degree. If Vardy was in the squad I'd say he's worth a go because he's a top class striker. But Calvert-Lewin - Kane slightly off form is still more likely to score than Calvert-Lewin in this team. Kane's the sort of player who can pop up with a goal at any time.

 

[clubchamp98]

Everything is to slow.
This gives defences time to reset.
So Kane has been marked out of the games.
But he needs to stay on the shoulders of the CB and stop dropping deep.
He needs to be there when that one chance comes up.
What does dropping deep achive if nobody takes up that space he leaves ,Son does this brilliantly but England’s players don’t.
He’s been anonymous up to now just hope GS can sort the service to him as it’s been very poor.

 

[Orikoru]

Everything is to slow.
This gives defences time to reset.
So Kane has been marked out of the games.
But he needs to stay on the shoulders of the CB and stop dropping deep.
He needs to be there when that one chance comes up.
What does dropping deep achive if nobody takes up that space he leaves ,Son does this brilliantly but England’s players don’t.
He’s been anonymous up to now just hope GS can sort the service to him as it’s been very poor.

You say that, but it's Sterling who has that role in the England team, and he's scored 2 goals. ?‍

Playing Germany will be a different kettle of fish to the group games. I suspect Gareth will set us up to counter attack, maybe with the back 5 and wing backs to counter-act their wing backs, and that may suit Kane if it means we get the ball into him more directly, and he can play in someone like Sterling or Foden who should be running beyond him.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

You say that, but it's Sterling who has that role in the England team, and he's scored 2 goals. ?‍

Playing Germany will be a different kettle of fish to the group games. I suspect Gareth will set us up to counter attack, maybe with the back 5 and wing backs to counter-act their wing backs, and that may suit Kane if it means we get the ball into him more directly, and he can play in someone like Sterling or Foden who should be running beyond him.

If we going for a back 4 I'd like us to go

--------------------pickford

---------walker----maigure---stones

Tripper -------rice-----phillips --------saka

-----------sterling --kane---- grealish

Saka and tripper would be very attacking but with stable footing behind

Those front 3 would create some great chances

 

[Orikoru]

If we going for a back 4 I'd like us to go

--------------------pickford

---------walker----maigure---stones

Tripper -------rice-----phillips --------saka

-----------sterling --kane---- grealish

Saka and tripper would be very attacking but with stable footing behind

Those front 3 would create some great chances

I'm basically convinced that Henderson will start, he's just had 45 minutes plus we have a week until the game. My prediction would be the team you've said, but Henderson in for Phillips, probably Shaw on the left instead of Saka. I'm not sure whether he'll start Grealish, Saka or Foden to be honest, it'll be one of the three. Or he could potentially bring in Mount and play it with Kane & Sterling as a front two - but I'm not sure about Mount coming in when he hasn't trained with the team this week.