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irip said:
I would like to see a clock that was stopped each time play was halted.
It would stop a lot of (not all) of the delaying the game, feigning injuries etc.

If allowed another one then get rid of VAR, happy to try a system where each team gets a set amount of challenges they may use but the ref goes to screen and checks and they lose it if he doesn’t change his mind.
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Like in Rugby League. Everyone knows where they are, including the spectators.
Yes, bring it on.
 
Neilds said:
As a bit of a side thread, what ‘rules’ would you like to see changed in football? I’m not talking the usual suspects of offside and handball, but what other things would you like to see change?

I would introduce minimum sizes for shin pads. A bit more protection for the lower leg might actually stop some of the rolling around. And on this subject, if you don’t want the physio on after an ‘injury’, the play should be restarted immediately while you are still down.

I would also do away with the manager technical area and stop the manager being out of the dugout. I’m sure none of the players can actually hear anything they say and most of the managers ignore the area - Arteta being one of the worst.
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I'd like to see a rule where the team that has just conceded a goal can restart the game and kick off within 30 seconds of the goal being scored, irrespective of whether the oppositions players are all back in their own half. It would instantly wipe out excessive celebrations, players diving in to the crowds, the entire team, full backs, keeper and all, running the length of the pitch to celebrate with the goalscorer. Get the game flowing again.

Get rid of VAR as it stands...introduce the same system they had at the U-17 World Cup where teams have 2 challenges per match where contentious decisions can be reviewed...if your review is upheld you retain your review, otherwise it is lost.

Also..if an offside decision needs lines drawing, or the use of the automated video system (i.e. it isn't obvious to the naked eye), then it isn't offside.
 
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Yes there is potential bias in the following given that this has been taken from the NUFC.COM website, but I think most of us can agree with the general sentiment about referees now being afraid to make decisions for themselves and the unwillingness of VAR officials to contradict their onfield colleagues....

Truly Madley awful - a tale of indecision

Saturday’s game against Chelsea was another in a long line of inadequate officiating that has seen VAR and the PGMOL plunging Premier League football into paralysis. Andy Madley was the latest of Howard Webb’s whistlers seemingly incapable of making onfield decisions, unsupported by VAR officials unable to contradict their partners in crime’s uncertainty.

Madley appeared to be the only person in St. James' Park who couldn’t see that Trevor Chalobah’s challenge on Anthony Gordon was a penalty, until his colleague in Stockley Park, Peter Bankes backed up his indecisiveness. The laughable phrase “side-to-side shielding” being an apt description of one ref looking after another.

How Bankes was allowed to be the VAR official for Newcastle in the game following his derby blunders is another mystery that only Webb can answer. But whether it was Andy Madley, Bankes, Sam Barrott or Craig Pawson, it matters not; they have all become rendered completely useless by a system that encourages vacillation. Madley bottled every decision on Saturday, whether it be tackles or handballs in or out of the box, persistent fouling, disgraceful dissent or the pathetic injury feigning of Cole Palmer. All he did was fail to blow his whistle and point to his ear.

That wouldn’t be so bad if the VAR official was capable of pointing out the blindingly obvious, but they have now been directed not to make a decision that may undermine their pals.

So we have referees that defer to VAR rather than make onfield judgements and those in a TV studio hundreds of miles away also left ineffectual by a “clear and obvious" bar made so high that they are frightened to ask the match referee to review their own incompetence. It’s not just those with the whistle or VAR that can’t make decisions, linos are also now unable to flag for offside just in case a goal may follow a passage of play, even when they are 99% certain a player is offside. That 1% is enough because VAR may determine that a single frame of footage could show that body parts may freakishly align to show players are actually onside. The phrase “matters of fact” is wrongly used about offsides.

For example, to all eyes in the stadium, Harry Kane was “a mile off” when he scored at SJP in Steve Bruce’s final game in charge but a random frame was found to show he wasn’t. Alexander Isak was clearly onside in his Newcastle debut at Anfield but a terrible camera angle and a thick Red line arbitrarily drawn wrongly showed he was offside.

Well done to the FA and Howard Webb for totally destroying our game. Your ineptitude knows no bounds....
 
Can’t vouch for its authenticity…

Inter president on selling André Onana to Manchester United
🗣️

“When we heard United were interested in Onana, we thought we might get around €14m, because he’d had a strong season and we’d reached the Champions League final.
Two days later, an official fax arrived offering €21m plus add-ons. We burst out laughing.
I told my assistant to fax back asking for €51m plus add-ons — I was joking.
The next morning, United accepted €51m.
We immediately moved for Yann Sommer at €5m, and the deal was accepted. We’d effectively made a €46m profit on Onana.
I told my assistant to open a bottle of tamarind. It felt like winning the lottery — and in a way, we had.”
 
That's a great goal from Rogers...from the take down, keeping the ball in play, maintaining his pace so he leaves Yorro in his wake, to the crisp precision of the strike. Proper Christmas Cracker that one.
 
nickjdavis said:
Yes there is potential bias in the following given that this has been taken from the NUFC.COM website, but I think most of us can agree with the general sentiment about referees now being afraid to make decisions for themselves and the unwillingness of VAR officials to contradict their onfield colleagues....

Truly Madley awful - a tale of indecision

Saturday’s game against Chelsea was another in a long line of inadequate officiating that has seen VAR and the PGMOL plunging Premier League football into paralysis. Andy Madley was the latest of Howard Webb’s whistlers seemingly incapable of making onfield decisions, unsupported by VAR officials unable to contradict their partners in crime’s uncertainty.

Madley appeared to be the only person in St. James' Park who couldn’t see that Trevor Chalobah’s challenge on Anthony Gordon was a penalty, until his colleague in Stockley Park, Peter Bankes backed up his indecisiveness. The laughable phrase “side-to-side shielding” being an apt description of one ref looking after another.

How Bankes was allowed to be the VAR official for Newcastle in the game following his derby blunders is another mystery that only Webb can answer. But whether it was Andy Madley, Bankes, Sam Barrott or Craig Pawson, it matters not; they have all become rendered completely useless by a system that encourages vacillation. Madley bottled every decision on Saturday, whether it be tackles or handballs in or out of the box, persistent fouling, disgraceful dissent or the pathetic injury feigning of Cole Palmer. All he did was fail to blow his whistle and point to his ear.

That wouldn’t be so bad if the VAR official was capable of pointing out the blindingly obvious, but they have now been directed not to make a decision that may undermine their pals.

So we have referees that defer to VAR rather than make onfield judgements and those in a TV studio hundreds of miles away also left ineffectual by a “clear and obvious" bar made so high that they are frightened to ask the match referee to review their own incompetence. It’s not just those with the whistle or VAR that can’t make decisions, linos are also now unable to flag for offside just in case a goal may follow a passage of play, even when they are 99% certain a player is offside. That 1% is enough because VAR may determine that a single frame of footage could show that body parts may freakishly align to show players are actually onside. The phrase “matters of fact” is wrongly used about offsides.

For example, to all eyes in the stadium, Harry Kane was “a mile off” when he scored at SJP in Steve Bruce’s final game in charge but a random frame was found to show he wasn’t. Alexander Isak was clearly onside in his Newcastle debut at Anfield but a terrible camera angle and a thick Red line arbitrarily drawn wrongly showed he was offside.

Well done to the FA and Howard Webb for totally destroying our game. Your ineptitude knows no bounds....
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A great post, but this is what makes me laugh about supporters of teams in premier league. Every week you moan about referring decisions and especially VAR and yet every week the same people go back and watch. Someone said years and years ago, that the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over and yet expect different results. The same could be said for these supporters but instead of doing its watching. It will not change so people have to either continue watching and accept it because letting it bother you is doing people no good. Or do what I did and I gave it up. I was an ardent Chelsea supporter but due to the cheating and VAR it totally ruined for me. I still get my fix, championship, ladies lower league and my local county team. I am honestly free and am back enjoying my football and guess what, I can celebrate a goal in the full knowledge that it’s a goal.
 
anotherdouble said:
A great post, but this is what makes me laugh about supporters of teams in premier league. Every week you moan about referring decisions and especially VAR and yet every week the same people go back and watch. Someone said years and years ago, that the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over and yet expect different results. The same could be said for these supporters but instead of doing its watching. It will not change so people have to either continue watching and accept it because letting it bother you is doing people no good. Or do what I did and I gave it up. I was an ardent Chelsea supporter but due to the cheating and VAR it totally ruined for me. I still get my fix, championship, ladies lower league and my local county team. I am honestly free and am back enjoying my football and guess what, I can celebrate a goal in the full knowledge that it’s a goal.
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I totally agree with everything you’ve said after the first 3 words.

He admits it bias, but a great post would of been the website mentioning times N’Castle have benefitted from bad decisions.

The BBC have made a big thing today about Isak’s injury, despite Slot stating they won’t know the extent until a scan this week, Lpool fans commenting about how it should of been a red card, but no mention of VVD’s tackle as shown in a previous post.

You’re 100% correct it’s insanity, but only when they feel their team has been badly done to.
 
PaulMdj said:
I totally agree with everything you’ve said after the first 3 words.

He admits it bias, but a great post would of been the website mentioning times N’Castle have benefitted from bad decisions.

The BBC have made a big thing today about Isak’s injury, despite Slot stating they won’t know the extent until a scan this week, Lpool fans commenting about how it should of been a red card, but no mention of VVD’s tackle as shown in a previous post.

You’re 100% correct it’s insanity, but only when they feel their team has been badly done to.
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What tackle did VVD do yesterday that should have resulted in some level of punishment ?

Isak’s injury does look a bad one and it was the result of a late challenge - but we never see those tackles looked at because a goal is scored

There was a lot of flying studs and bad tackles in the game yesterday and thought the ref and var had one of its better games
 
Arthur Wedge said:
What tackle did VVD do yesterday that should have resulted in some level of punishment ?

Isak’s injury does look a bad one and it was the result of a late challenge - but we never see those tackles looked at because a goal is scored

There was a lot of flying studs and bad tackles in the game yesterday and thought the ref and var had one of its better games
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Unfortunately it’s been posted by someone you have on ignore.👍🏻
https://twitter.com/x/status/2002442566738792663
 
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