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[Deleted member 1740]

Still doesn’t make them “weak as piss” totally agree they have issues and he’s struggling to find/develop/buy a settled defence, but they don’t win games 5-4 or 7-6 every week and to only concede 2 goals less than one of the best defences the PL has seen says a lot imo.

Against the better sides they’re easily exposed. IMO they’re piss poor defensively.

 

[clubchamp98]

will we see a scruffier goal than Arsenal’s?

Good win though, made up for Jota slotting.

Yes picked up by Klopp then a great goal, (although Salah tried his best to stop him scoring .)
Can’t see what Robbo was trying to do.
Great performance from the reds.
Everyone played well.
Mane a bit lucky ,just no need after 3 mins.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Still doesn’t make them “weak as piss” totally agree they have issues and he’s struggling to find/develop/buy a settled defence, but they don’t win games 5-4 or 7-6 every week and to only concede 2 goals less than one of the best defences the PL has seen says a lot imo.

It depends on how you look at it.

City often have 70 and even nudging 80% possession in some games, so for the 25-30% possession the other team have, City are conceding too many in tight games.

The aside to the argument is that Pep has spent, was it 340m on defenders and keeps bombing them out when they dont perform, and replace, buy, replace again. No other team does this and to the same spend levels. Yes Liverpool bough VVD and United Maguire, but Liverpool, United, Spurs, Arsenal havent been buying 1-2 centre halves every year for mega bucks. The mega buck rests with Pep on this one.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Against the better sides they’re easily exposed. IMO they’re piss poor defensively.

Yet you both conceded the same amount of goals against the top 6 home and away last season.

One defence, imo, the best the Prem has seen for years and the other, iyo, piss poor defensively.

You’re a hard task master you.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It depends on how you look at it.

City often have 70 and even nudging 80% possession in some games, so for the 25-30% possession the other team have, City are conceding too many in tight games.

The aside to the argument is that Pep has spent, was it 340m on defenders and keeps bombing them out when they dont perform, and replace, buy, replace again. No other team does this and to the same spend levels. Yes Liverpool bough VVD and United Maguire, but Liverpool, United, Spurs, Arsenal havent been buying 1-2 centre halves every year for mega bucks. The mega buck rests with Pep on this one.

I totally agree with the spending/tinkering element, but don’t think it’s that bad compared to every other team bar yourselves.

Klopp has raised the bar and Pep/City are judged against that, take out the fact you took the PL to a whole new level and City have few issues.

They lost/drew against lesser teams last season, not neccesarily the top 6.

 

[davemc1]

Klopp puts Keane in his place ??

Missed that as I was coming home from the match... hilarious ? I loved it

 

[Liverbirdie]

I totally agree with the spending/tinkering element, but don’t think it’s that bad compared to every other team bar yourselves.

Klopp has raised the bar and Pep/City are judged against that, take out the fact you took the PL to a whole new level and City have few issues.

They lost/drew against lesser teams last season, not neccesarily the top 6.

For me City are 2/3rds of a great team, but we all know the 1/3rd that isnt "par".

He has had 5 years, tonnes of centre halves, tonnes of money spent, and it still isnt up to standard for the standing they have. They only have to defend for a quarter of the game most weeks, and if you take that as a percentage of shots faced, and all of the other similar stats they arent doing very well. If you just look at goals conceded that only tells part of the story.

 

[davemc1]

I totally agree with the spending/tinkering element, but don’t think it’s that bad compared to every other team bar yourselves.

Klopp has raised the bar and Pep/City are judged against that, take out the fact you took the PL to a whole new level and City have few issues.

They lost/drew against lesser teams last season, not neccesarily the top 6.

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If city have few issues defensively, why do they keep buying defenders ?‍

 

[davemc1]

Oh, I havnt mention lpool yet ? I honestly thought we’d struggle tonight, especially when hearing Alison was out. Oh ye of little faith. This team

 

[fundy]

will we see a scruffier goal than Arsenal’s?

Good win though, made up for Jota slotting.

will we see a clearer red card ignored than Manes?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

will we see a clearer red card ignored than Manes?

no, it wasn’t a red card. He’s blatantly shoulder barged him and Tierney has made a meal out of it, rolling round the floor. Yellow was harsh.

 

[Beezerk]

Missed that as I was coming home from the match... hilarious ? I loved it

Klopp just a little touchy and defensive there

 

[Beezerk]

no, it wasn’t a red card. He’s blatantly shoulder barged him and Tierney has made a meal out of it, rolling round the floor. Yellow was harsh.

Really? Looked a straight red to me, elbow in his chops with a clenched fist, he was doing in to hurt his opponent IMO

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Really? Looked a straight red to me, elbow in his chops with a clenched fist, he was doing in to hurt his opponent IMO

Not for me, it was clearly a shoulder barge.

 

[Tashyboy]

Yes. they’re definitely weaker defensively.

They concede less because few teams actually lay a glove on them. The majority of teams were beaten before a ball was kicked season before last.

What made me Chuckle before the game, was the comment, ”Pep has protected the back four playing Fernandinho and Rodri in front”. When you have walker and Mendy Playing wingback, the gaps are down the wings, not the middle.
I was on a forum last night where they were asking should Pep go. Talk about over reaction.

 

[Liverbirdie]

no, it wasn’t a red card. He’s blatantly shoulder barged him and Tierney has made a meal out of it, rolling round the floor. Yellow was harsh.

It was very close to one for me, and the yellow was definite.

I think what got Mane off the hook was his flying elbow (which he meant) connected with the shoulder marginally, before going onto Tierney's jaw. If it was direct probably would have been given as a red.

 

[clubchamp98]

It was very close to one for me, and the yellow was definite.

I think what got Mane off the hook was his flying elbow (which he meant) connected with the shoulder marginally, before going onto Tierney's jaw. If it was direct probably would have been given as a red.

Bit of a silly one for me.
Tierney was by his own corner flag ,going nowhere.
If it had been 20 mins instead of 3 mins it might have been different.
But refs now won’t make a decision without the back up from VAR .

How Keane gets a job as a pundit amazes me he’s the most boring on TV.
Bring back Phil Neville.

 

[clubchamp98]

will we see a clearer red card ignored than Manes?

There was one in the West Ham game really bad .
Ref didn’t even give a foul.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

e
If city have few issues defensively, why do they keep buying defenders ?‍

What part of I agree with spending/tinkering comments did you miss.?‍

 

[PJ87]

There was one in the West Ham game really bad .
Ref didn’t even give a foul.

Which one was that?