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What a game that was last night. No tippy-tappy-bore-your-opponent-to-death Pep b***ocks. Just two teams swinging at each other.

Inter only had 28% possession too - surely that therefore means they shouldn’t have won!!??!! Surely it isn’t sustainable and they’ll come unstuck when they come up against a really good team?!!?!?!!!

Anyway back to the important stuff…..what are people’s thoughts about Trent Alexander-Arnold?
 
What a game that was last night. No tippy-tappy-bore-your-opponent-to-death Pep b***ocks. Just two teams swinging at each other.

Inter only had 28% possession too - surely that therefore means they shouldn’t have won!!??!! Surely it isn’t sustainable and they’ll come unstuck when they come up against a really good team?!!?!?!!!

Anyway back to the important stuff…..what are people’s thoughts about Trent Alexander-Arnold?
It was a great two legs. I think Inter were poor at managing the game out and ended up getting punished by a Barca side that seemed rampant but themselves seem incapable of defending with anything other than the high line and inviting forwards to attack the space. In a way it should have gone to penalties but by the same token I feel that would have bee an unfair way for one of them to have lost.
 
More proposed tweaks to offisde although if it favours the attacker it seems a move in the right direction https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgngqen0jgo
I think it goes too far the other way - all you're going to see if that was the rule is defenders dropping deeper and deeper until there is no space in behind at all.

Changing the rules constantly is ruining the game though. There was nothing wrong with the offside rule pre-VAR. This desire to magnify everything to the precise millimetre has caused them to ruin it. I played in a charity match last weekend, and there was a debateable offside decision - the player who was given offside didn't touch the ball and the defender marking him scored an own goal. I had to say that in my understanding of the rule, it's offside, because he's interfering with play if the defender had to intervene - but held my hands up and said I've no idea if that's actually still the rule now or not. Baffling, and one of the many reasons I don't bother watching anymore.
 
I think it goes too far the other way - all you're going to see if that was the rule is defenders dropping deeper and deeper until there is no space in behind at all.

Changing the rules constantly is ruining the game though. There was nothing wrong with the offside rule pre-VAR. This desire to magnify everything to the precise millimetre has caused them to ruin it. I played in a charity match last weekend, and there was a debateable offside decision - the player who was given offside didn't touch the ball and the defender marking him scored an own goal. I had to say that in my understanding of the rule, it's offside, because he's interfering with play if the defender had to intervene - but held my hands up and said I've no idea if that's actually still the rule now or not. Baffling, and one of the many reasons I don't bother watching anymore.
Up to a point I agree with everything you say but I guess the point is if there is ultra small margins but it favours the strike I'm all for playing on. When they are offside by a boot lace or other ludicrous marging because the lines say so it is killing the game
 
Up to a point I agree with everything you say but I guess the point is if there is ultra small margins but it favours the strike I'm all for playing on. When they are offside by a boot lace or other ludicrous marging because the lines say so it is killing the game
Completely agree with that - it's a direct effect of bringing in VAR. In the olden days a linesman would have said that was level, and we'd have all watched the replay and agreed.

In Wenger's proposal though, if I've understood it correctly, then things that would have previously have been given offside even by the naked eye, will now be given onside. 90% of the forward's body could be closer to the goal, but if his trail foot is level with the defender's front foot, he'll be given onside? So it's a massive change. Hence why I don't think it'll work, because that forces the defender to continually go deeper and deeper while the striker will just keep edging nearer and nearer to the goal. So we won't see any high lines anymore.
 
Completely agree with that - it's a direct effect of bringing in VAR. In the olden days a linesman would have said that was level, and we'd have all watched the replay and agreed.

In Wenger's proposal though, if I've understood it correctly, then things that would have previously have been given offside even by the naked eye, will now be given onside. 90% of the forward's body could be closer to the goal, but if his trail foot is level with the defender's front foot, he'll be given onside? So it's a massive change. Hence why I don't think it'll work, because that forces the defender to continually go deeper and deeper while the striker will just keep edging nearer and nearer to the goal. So we won't see any high lines anymore.
Funny - I see it the opposite way. Knowing that creating daylight makes the attacker offside, the defender will keep edging forwards.
 
Funny - I see it the opposite way. Knowing that creating daylight makes the attacker offside, the defender will keep edging forwards.
But that way round would be insane, everyone would be defending like Ange's Spurs and just stood on the half-way line. No matter how you look at it, the forward will always have half a yard's advantage over the defender - so only the very quickest defenders can afford to do what you've said. Most defenders cannot give the likes of Salah and Haaland a half-yard head start with half a pitch to run into in.
 
Been a while!

Getting so interesting in the fight for Europe, so many twists and turns still on the table!

Villa have to win out and hope other fixtures work in our favour - tough ask but possible!

Really gutted our final home league game is now on a Friday night too, what a rubbish way to sign off for the season, never should have been allowed. PL are absolute jokers - done this twice to us this year! Squeezed in a Liverpool game when we already had a stacked fixture list rather than just putting it into the start of the 2 weeks off.

Bournemouth away this weekend - big game but one a fully firing Villa should win.
 
Been a while!

Getting so interesting in the fight for Europe, so many twists and turns still on the table!

Villa have to win out and hope other fixtures work in our favour - tough ask but possible!

Really gutted our final home league game is now on a Friday night too, what a rubbish way to sign off for the season, never should have been allowed. PL are absolute jokers - done this twice to us this year! Squeezed in a Liverpool game when we already had a stacked fixture list rather than just putting it into the start of the 2 weeks off.

Bournemouth away this weekend - big game but one a fully firing Villa should win.
We helped you last weekend!

It looks like we may miss out and I'm not bothered about that. Would be a shame if Villa don't get a CL spot
 
Been a while!

Getting so interesting in the fight for Europe, so many twists and turns still on the table!

Villa have to win out and hope other fixtures work in our favour - tough ask but possible!

Really gutted our final home league game is now on a Friday night too, what a rubbish way to sign off for the season, never should have been allowed. PL are absolute jokers - done this twice to us this year! Squeezed in a Liverpool game when we already had a stacked fixture list rather than just putting it into the start of the 2 weeks off.

Bournemouth away this weekend - big game but one a fully firing Villa should win.
Usual rubbish, it's the right decision. Get the win in early and pressure any that are chasing. More woe is me...
 
Can anyone reassure me that Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, Spurs and Man Utd will all face similar challenges over the coming months?

If so, I’ll happily agree with you that the rules, such as they are, don’t inherently favour certain clubs. 👍
 

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